New Zealand general election | 25 comments (25 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Dominion Post tally of reuslts ... (none / 1)

12.04am: The final result, with all booths counted, gave National 60 seats, Labour 34, The Green Party 13, NZ First 8, Maori Party 3, while the Mana Party, UnitedFuture and ACT all won a seat each.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Nov 26th, 2011 at 07:59:25 PM EST

Re: Dominion Post tally of reuslts ... (none / 0)

Hm? That would total 121 seats, with no absolute majority for National.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sun Nov 27th, 2011 at 08:53:04 AM EST
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Re: Dominion Post tally of reuslts ... (none / 1)

Just checked the official results page at NZ elections ~ that's what they say too. Bloomberg just says Key can form government with his party's traditional allies, so its going to be a minority government on a minority of 1 with the same coalition agreements in confidence and supply (budget) of the Maori Party (3), ACT (1) and United Future (1) for a majority of 5.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Nov 27th, 2011 at 09:18:33 AM EST
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Re: Dominion Post tally of reuslts ... (4.00 / 3)

Yup. The Maori Party won one more seat than they were entitled to, so we have an overhang. So National needs a coalition partner.

Final results out in two weeks, which will likely see national lose another seat to NZ First or the Greens.

by IdiotSavant on Sun Nov 27th, 2011 at 09:19:45 AM EST
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Aha, Wikipedia explains that ... (none / 1)

... for those of us not used to the Mixed Proportional method, where you get extra "party vote" seats when you, eg, have a party vote share equal to 10 seats, but only win 7 constituencies.

"overhang seats" happen when you are entitled to fewer total seats than the constituency seats you win. You can't take away constituency seats, and the parties that won a larger share than their individual MP's are still entitled to their party list seats, so you end up seating more MP's than the normal total of individual and party list seats.

That happens in New Zealand because of the habit of Maori voters to cast Maori Party constituency votes and Labour Party party votes, leaving MP with fewer total seats than constituency seats won.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Nov 27th, 2011 at 12:23:35 PM EST
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