High Drama: Greece under the "troika" | 61 comments (61 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Debtors Union? (none / 1)

+1. I have also come to the conclusion that a common front of 'the periphery' is the only way to get more than token changes from the controlling interests in the EU.

by Pope Epopt on Thu Feb 17th, 2011 at 09:04:16 AM EST
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Re: Debtors Union? (4.00 / 4)

But first the periphery needs to accept the idea that the core is screwing them.

There's too much Stockholm Syndrome here, stemming from feelings of inadequacy over being excluded from "Europe" for decades (mostly as a result of dictatorship persisting into the 70's).

Keynesianism is intellectually hard, as evidenced by the inability of many trained economists to get it - Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 17th, 2011 at 09:10:09 AM EST
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Re: Debtors Union? (4.00 / 3)

As Adam Smith put it:

a creditable day-labourer would be ashamed to appear in public without a linen shirt, the want of which would be supposed to denote that disgraceful degree of poverty which, it is presumed, nobody can well fall into without extreme bad conduct.

To be poor is shameful, maybe this also holds when it comes to representing an indebted nation. Sure sounded so when Persson talked about sneering twenty year olds and woved to pay down the swedish debt (and embrace the third way).

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by A swedish kind of death on Fri Feb 18th, 2011 at 04:00:59 AM EST
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Re: Debtors Union? (none / 1)

For Smith this was an observation. I suspect that he would have been horrified at the thought that elites would try to manipulate downward the perceived standard, though it is certainly part of the tool kit of today's elites.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:11:13 AM EST
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Re: Debtors Union? (4.00 / 2)

personally I dont think anyone will even think about turning the ship around till one of the big three begins to spiral the plughole.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 17th, 2011 at 09:17:36 AM EST
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