Irish pushback strategy - we get mail | 305 comments (305 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Due Diligence... (none / 1)

Why are the citizens not responsible for due diligence in electing their officials, and pressing for jail for crooked ones who drop regulations for their cronies?

Align culture with our nature. Ot else!

by ormondotvos (ormond.otvosnospamgmialcon) on Sat Feb 5th, 2011 at 09:55:24 PM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (none / 1)

They are.

But killing the Irish economy in order to make a point about the consequences of electing crooks and liars to high office is overkill and collective punishment. What about the Irish citizens who were shouting bloody murder about their corrupt and in-bred politicians? They'll be punished too if the economy goes into the crapper.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Feb 5th, 2011 at 10:03:32 PM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (none / 0)

That is a good question. 80% or so of the Irish voters voted in 2007 for openly neoliberal parties.

by IM on Sun Feb 6th, 2011 at 11:48:36 AM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (4.00 / 2)

So did 80 % of the German voters at the last election. Does that justify telling all German bondholders to take a hike?

No, it does not. Bondholders should be given haircuts in order of their importance for the productive economy, and in a manner that is distributionally reasonable. Widows and orphans should be protected. Bankers should lose their shirts.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Feb 6th, 2011 at 06:32:18 PM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (none / 0)

Now that is a lie.

by IM on Mon Feb 7th, 2011 at 09:26:30 AM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (none / 0)

I suppose whether the SPD is neoliberal is in the eye of the beholder.

Keynesianism is intellectually hard, as evidenced by the inability of many trained economists to get it - Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 7th, 2011 at 09:29:10 AM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (none / 0)

True. But you cuold say the same about Labour in Ireland. That is why I said openly neoliberal: FF, FG, PD.

by IM on Mon Feb 7th, 2011 at 09:37:25 AM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (none / 0)

IM:

True. But you cuold say the same about Labour in Ireland.

And that proves what exactly?

Keynesianism is intellectually hard, as evidenced by the inability of many trained economists to get it - Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 7th, 2011 at 10:23:12 AM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (none / 0)

I wouldn't call Labour neo-liberal. Certainly centre-left at best though. Their manifesto for the last election was about things like transfers to the poor and centre-left stuff like that.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 7th, 2011 at 10:31:30 AM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (none / 0)

After Hartz IV?

After sabotaging the SPD/Linke coalition in NRW for absolutely no gain?

After preferring a Grand Coalition over an SPD/Linke coalition at the federal level?

No, not really.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Feb 7th, 2011 at 09:43:01 AM EST
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Re: Due Diligence... (none / 1)

I was trying to be polite...

Keynesianism is intellectually hard, as evidenced by the inability of many trained economists to get it - Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 7th, 2011 at 10:31:02 AM EST
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Irish pushback strategy - we get mail | 305 comments (305 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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