[UPDATED] Daniel Cohn-Bendit in Lyon | 17 comments (17 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Daniel Cohn-Bendit in Lyon (none / 1)

I have been considering joining Europe Ecologie Les Verts, but seeing the comeback of the old habits, I am waiting to see what will come out of the congress. I hope your "non-faction"'s motion will win...

"L'homme fut sûrement le voeu le plus fou des ténèbres " René Char

by Melanchthon on Wed May 25th, 2011 at 11:42:25 AM EST

I have been hesitant (4.00 / 4)

about trying to recruit people, for precisely that reason. I remember one "Green Festival" outreach event a few years ago, that I invited half a dozen friends to. It ended in bitter screaming arguments, between Greens. Pretty disastrous as a PR exercise. (I have also witnessed fisticuffs in party meetings. But that's another story, best left untold.)

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Wed May 25th, 2011 at 11:49:50 AM EST
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Re: I have been hesitant (none / 0)

Let's talk about it after the congress...

"L'homme fut sûrement le voeu le plus fou des ténèbres " René Char

by Melanchthon on Wed May 25th, 2011 at 11:54:45 AM EST
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Re: Daniel Cohn-Bendit in Lyon (4.00 / 3)

After giving local support for the EP elections, I too am adopting a wait-and-see attitude for the moment. Nicolas Hulot for candidate might pull in votes, but the resulting image confusion would be fatal. Just as the Greens' tendency to continue to be a party and therefore attempt to overpower what should be a broad coalition and run it as a party, can't go on or it will end up with, er, the Greens going back to being a party. Factional, squabbling, rump. (Organic rump, but rump).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed May 25th, 2011 at 12:06:06 PM EST
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Re: Daniel Cohn-Bendit in Lyon (none / 1)

Yes, I've voted for EELV in the European and regional elections, but I don't think I would vote for Hulot. I might however change my mind: I have seen him interviewed and it improved a lot my opinion about him.

"L'homme fut sûrement le voeu le plus fou des ténèbres " René Char

by Melanchthon on Wed May 25th, 2011 at 01:02:01 PM EST
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Hulot: did you see this?? (none / 1)

Développer l'"économie verte" en empruntant auprès de la BCE, plaide FNH, Actualités

Développer l'"économie verte" en empruntant auprès de la BCE, plaide FNH
L'investissement massif permettant une transition vers une "économie verte", respectueuse des ressources et du climat, nécessite d'autoriser un Etat à emprunter directement auprès de la Banque centrale européenne, a plaidé mercredi la Fondation pour la Nature et l'Homme (FNH).
Cette pratique, en vigueur aux Etats-Unis ou au Japon mais "interdite dans la zone euro", a déjà été utilisée pour sauver le système bancaire en 2008, souligne l'ex-Fondation Nicolas Hulot dans un note détaillant sa proposition.

I have paid no attention to his foundation, but this is probably remiss of me...

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Wed May 25th, 2011 at 01:13:10 PM EST
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Re: Daniel Cohn-Bendit in Lyon (4.00 / 5)

I understand your hesitation, the New Mexico Greens were the largest collection of goof-balls I fervently hope never to meet again.

On the other hand, if everybody who wishes to end the pointless faction-fighting and "empire building" in the party sits out, waiting for the faction-fighting and "empire building" to end ... it won't end.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed May 25th, 2011 at 12:44:44 PM EST
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On the contrary (4.00 / 3)

The goofball factor is fairly rare over here, in my experience.

I always feel completely at home in Green Party meetings in France. They are people like me; we agree implicitly on almost everything; we are filled with the arrogant certainty of being right, of being the enlightened vangard of the... middle... class.

The main problem is that the typical cadre has had previous political experience in one of any number of left-wing parties, mostly Bolshevik (I englobe here the highly respectable, mainstream French Communist Party, as well as the various Trotskyite sects, the now-defunct Maoist cults etc); a minority come from outfits of a more libertarian outlook. Oddly enough, the stalinists seem to gravitate to the organs of power. While paying lip service to green ethics.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Wed May 25th, 2011 at 01:21:01 PM EST
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Re: On the contrary (4.00 / 3)

IMNSHO Stalinists ARE goof-balls and are attracted to positions of power like fungus to rotting logs. It's their natural ecological niche.

:-)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed May 25th, 2011 at 01:53:50 PM EST
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