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According to info from Der Spiegel (!), and WSJ, Portugal has 383 tons of gold stashed away, worth 14 billion euros. The Bank of Finland holds 49 tons.
Once again the Finns are asking themselves why they are being asked to pay up to support the "less model citizens" of the Eurozone. You can't be me, I'm taken
Bailout countries could sell their gold reserves to reduce debt woes Why should countries subject to EU/IMF financial assistance not be force to sell their gold reserves, German politicians ask. Norbert Barthle, Germany's governing coalition budget speaker, and his counterpart Carsten Schneider from the Social Democrats have urged Portugal to consider selling some of its gold reserves to reduce its debt woes and therefore the bailout costs, Wall Street Journal reports. Portugal has nearly 383 tons of gold, about 9% of its GDP, which is the highest proportion in Europe. Portugal's holding would be worth $18 billion at current market rates. But Portugal has signed central-bank agreements not to destabilize the gold market, and announcing an imminent dump of their reserves would certainly do that. Some market analysts suggest that the gold of debtor states could be used as collateral in repurchase agreements (We think this is a complicated issue, as any form of collateralised borrowing would subordinate ordinary sovereign bond holders )
Why should countries subject to EU/IMF financial assistance not be force to sell their gold reserves, German politicians ask. Norbert Barthle, Germany's governing coalition budget speaker, and his counterpart Carsten Schneider from the Social Democrats have urged Portugal to consider selling some of its gold reserves to reduce its debt woes and therefore the bailout costs, Wall Street Journal reports. Portugal has nearly 383 tons of gold, about 9% of its GDP, which is the highest proportion in Europe. Portugal's holding would be worth $18 billion at current market rates. But Portugal has signed central-bank agreements not to destabilize the gold market, and announcing an imminent dump of their reserves would certainly do that. Some market analysts suggest that the gold of debtor states could be used as collateral in repurchase agreements (We think this is a complicated issue, as any form of collateralised borrowing would subordinate ordinary sovereign bond holders )
(Incidentally, this logic presupposes that the Bundesbank is more prepared to support the price of gold than the price of Portuguese sovereign bonds. But in view of recent history this does not seem like an incredible assumption.)
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This is where narrative and myth start to become very dangerous: if we have to sell that gold, more and more voices will start suggesting that "in that time" things were much better managed (nevermind appalling statistics about infant mortality, poverty, class divide, war in Africa or lack of "less efficient" freedom of speech and democracy). I think we are on a dangerous path in regards to the construction of the myth of "the better government framework". Many people (right and left) already talk about how things were "well managed" at that time.
Beware the power of myths.
"I had a discussion with Barroso last Friday about what can be done for Greece, Spain, Portugal and the rest and his message was blunt: 'Look, if they do not carry out these austerity packages, these countries could virtually disappear in the way that we know them as democracies. They've got no choice, this is it'."
Anyone here read "The Fourth Turning"? If yes, would like to share an opinion? It seems applicable to this post (A good match for the "Until..." section).
Actually one of the fundamental reasons I started writing with a pseudonym comes from the doubt that democracy and freedom of speech are currently stable.
writing with a pseudonym
It is exactly the group that you DO NOT want to stop paying salaries: those with guns.
Up to now only a delay of one day on salary payments (and today a complaint from the police top official that there are cash flow problems).
So goes the myth in Greece, too, that we had no public debt in 1974 (the day our junta fell). Which is of course true, but it had nothing to do with good management. Apart of poverty and inequalities we had nothing of everything else,too, (no roads, no electricity and drinkable water in many rural areas, no health system, no social security and low living standards). And there is some kind of nostalgia, surprisingly not only by the hard right but also from some left intellectuals,too, for the 1953-74 period of the so-called high growth (but also high inequalities, junta and lame democracy).
Someone should open a diary on junta nostalgia by the periphery Euro elites. "Eurozone leaders have turned a €50bn Greek solvency problem into a €1,000bn existential crisis for the European Union." David Miliband
Someone should open a diary on junta nostalgia by the periphery Euro elites.
If we are forced to put gold (aka, "Salazar's gold") as collateral for extra EU "help", that will entail a massive narrative shift, I believe (from simple nostalgia to maybe active preference for the old times).
yuck.
For at least the last 30 years, and definitely since the Reagan/Thatcher revolution got going, a frequent mantra of right wing politics has been that "the state must be run like a private firm". In the Europe in the 1990s the right wing, enabled by third-way social democrats, managed the spectacular feat of structuring the Eurozone around rules that make it all but impossible to run the state in any other way, to the point that Zapatero now freely admits and preaches that the state needs to fund itself in the capital markets (or borrowing from other states) and that in order to access credit it has to be thrifty. So the fourth largest Eurozone member state must run its financial affairs just like a private firm, or a local government, and this is the message coming from a Social-Democratic leader. How the mighty have fallen.
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