Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.
Display:
No, because climate change shrinks the available ecological footprint.

And sea walls aren't a viable option for entire continents. Sea level rises create disproportionate economic stress because so much critical infrastructure - never mind so many critical cities - is already in flood-prone areas (q.v. New Orleans and Florida) or in areas where a rise of a metre or less would knock out critical distribution and transport nodes.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon May 9th, 2011 at 09:52:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
But can't any number of changes also shrink the available footprint?

Let's suppose that the people that are involved with Geoengineering aren't the dangerous knuckleheads that I think they are and instead are actually capable of developing a system to fully control the atmosphere. Great! The status quo is preserved (which, as indicated by your earlier comment seems to be most desired). Life goes on, human population can continue to increase. But now we'll need more land for all these people and more food and more resources, etc. Sooner or later, and assuming something else doesn't change on us, we'll start reaching the physical limits of the continents. Well we can build out on to the seas until we run out of room there and so on. But guess what, we will inevitably find that our growth (our population size) is not unlimited. It seems only prudent to accept this sooner rather than later before we too become too big to fail.

As you've illustrated sea walls are not a viable long term or large scale option. But why should we even consider this? The need for sea walls is predicated on the fundamental assumption that the world is static, that everything is now what it will always will be. The whole issue of climate change seems to be more about realizing that we were wrong with this assumption than anything else (unless of course things don't have to change...).

by Jace on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 07:21:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
But can't any number of changes also shrink the available footprint?

Yes, anthropogenic climate change is just the most pressing example of biosphere destruction.

There are others, but currently it looks like the one that will cause the most immediate problems.

The general problem is that we have a stupid habit of destroying our habitat.

As I've said before - terraforming your own planet to make it uninhabitable doesn't count as a win.

 

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 07:39:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Why shrinks, necessarily?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 07:30:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Give us all a sensible model where it increases the available resources.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 07:43:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Longer growing seasons in nontropical latitudes?

Economics is politics by other means
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 08:03:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]
See also:

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 08:55:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Display:

Occasional Series