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93 is 18 years ago. Loads of SS still alive then.

And we're not discussing the bulk of the population here, we're talking about elites who are character and outlook-wise, culturally very different. And not even the pols, who are nowadays simply the paid agents of the elites, but the people who exist in the large marbled buildings who may be seen but rarely identified.

That's who this is about. It's like many Brits are nice people (-ish), but there are people at the top who are not very nice. There were people in the UK who, right up to the outbreak of WWII were very much in favour of Herr Hitler and felt that Britain could do with a touch of his reforms. They were well-connected then and their offspring remain well connected, they even own a prominent newspaper which has consistently promoted socially conservative viewpoints since the 30s. And they run things here too.


keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 05:45:32 PM EST
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And we're not discussing the bulk of the population here, we're talking about elites who are character and outlook-wise, culturally very different. And not even the pols, who are nowadays simply the paid agents of the elites, but the people who exist in the large marbled buildings who may be seen but rarely identified.

That's who this is about. It's like many Brits are nice people (-ish), but there are people at the top who are not very nice. There were people in the UK who, right up to the outbreak of WWII were very much in favour of Herr Hitler and felt that Britain could do with a touch of his reforms.

Exactly.
In the US the Hearst newspaper chain sang the praises of Hitler right up to pear harbor.

The German culture was, like the American one, steeped in dominance dreams and self-deceptive justifications for same.
America remains in the same bloody teapot today. Under the brass plaques and apparent progressivism, ---does Germany?

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri May 13th, 2011 at 03:16:21 AM EST
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despots are manifested in easily swayed, groupthink-habituated populations.

the same social genepool that creates unthinking loyalty to the 'patria' or state, can work in a positive direction when channeled into civic pride, social cohesion, and collaborative citizenry.

education is thus the linchpin of democracy, without history's hindsight we become condemned to repeat these obvious evolutionary dead-end roads.

our intellects thrive on complexity, when configured for curiosity. configured badly, they seek the familiar, simplistic port-in-a-storm refuge of nationalism-uber-alles and such monkey business...

critical thinking can be allied with vivid imagination, it just doesn't happen very often.

global vision can merrily unite with local activism, but the potency of that combo is not lost on our DL's.

until we connect the top (political elites) with the bottom (grassroots), we keep trying to make right merge with left instead, ignoring the vertical axis.

the latter, (L/R), is pure distraction, for vying for centrism makes politics bloodless, while still a killer sport... what matters is throwing off the present class yokes, and subbing with new concepts of excellence and distinction based on reality. for this we need to understand how economics is woven agenda, the warp to politics' woof....literally!

how we get there from here needs to be re-invented every day, as the whole game of human life-as-we-know-it is teetering on the verge of unviability. inventing new flavours of ice cream to sell in hell is not a business model...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri May 13th, 2011 at 07:04:41 PM EST
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