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That how it looks like from here. "Eurozone leaders have turned a €50bn Greek solvency problem into a €1,000bn existential crisis for the European Union." David Miliband
...Greece's debt to GDP was 110% in mid 2009, so if the problems were known internally, they were actually known by everyone, including Papandreou, prior to that. Why? Because Greece's debt to GDP has been at 100-105% for over two decades now. No surprise that it moved slightly up during a global economic crisis.
I thought it much too convenient that Papandreou blamed the previous gov't. of course they were at fault--for a lot of corruption. But so was the Simitis gov't prior to that.
The charge that Greece misrepresented its books to Eurostat--and therefore investors--was also largely a fraud. Why? Read the January 8, 2010 report on Greece that's available from Eurostat right on the front page. Greece gave bad statistics to Eurostat yearly. Because Greece's government ministers were lax in rounding up the necessary information--presumably in order to maintain their interests in the ministries. But this doesn't mean accurate data was not reported at the end of the year. Indeed, Eurostat sent teams of accountants to Greece--something the report describes with much perturbation--and after a lot of work, they came up with accurate numbers for Greece. At the end of every year. Eurostat continues to do this to this day. So while the Greek gov't was horrid with numbers, it is NOT accurate to say that investors and the EU were not apprised of the state of Greek debt. And if the Eurostat numbers were wrong during the entire decade, then they are doubly wrong now, because the revisions showed a jump from an average around 100% from 2000-2009 to 115% in 2010.
In other words, investors should not scream fraud. Indeed, EUROSTAT and PIMCO has issued warnings about the state of Greek debt all through the decade. PIMCO hasn't bought Greece since 2006.
So much for the theory. A visit to the Acropolis offers an example of what is really happening. There are more museum guards here now, a consequence of the Greek interpretation of consolidation. Consolidation, Greek Style Here's how it works: OSE, the national railroad, was expected to eliminate its annual deficit of 1-2 billion by slashing about 1,800 of its 5,800 jobs. But, as in other government-owned businesses, the employees were not let go but transferred to new jobs instead -- albeit with reduced pay. Greece's partners in the euro zone are gradually losing patience with Prime Minister Papandreou and his team. A year after receiving 110 billion in international financial aid commitments, Greece has hopelessly failed to reach the agreed austerity goals. Its lenders are now questioning the government's ability to reform, the economy has declined even further than feared, and important tax revenues have failed to materialize.
Consolidation, Greek Style
Here's how it works: OSE, the national railroad, was expected to eliminate its annual deficit of 1-2 billion by slashing about 1,800 of its 5,800 jobs. But, as in other government-owned businesses, the employees were not let go but transferred to new jobs instead -- albeit with reduced pay.
Greece's partners in the euro zone are gradually losing patience with Prime Minister Papandreou and his team. A year after receiving 110 billion in international financial aid commitments, Greece has hopelessly failed to reach the agreed austerity goals. Its lenders are now questioning the government's ability to reform, the economy has declined even further than feared, and important tax revenues have failed to materialize.
The Spiegel piece is naked narrative-setting for the U-turn in the Troika position. And the thrust is "unemployment, unemployment, umeployment". Throw the bums on the street. See how well that will work. Economics is politics by other means
The sea of people in front of the Greek Parliament understand this. The Greek politicians with their visions of turning Greece into Denmark do not.
Someone in a Greek paper, writing about the massive Greek protests, invoked Aeschylus this morning, "Who can exhaust the sea?"
We shall see.
The ECB is (literally?) playing with fire here.
Here's a question - what kind of concerted EU-wide political action would be needed to remove the ECB's headlock on national policy across the EU?
And it's not a forced referendum or a demand for policy - it's a petition mechanism that asks the Commission to, like, think about stuff, if it wouldn't mind, and if it's not doing anything too taxing elsewhere.
Even so - it would make a terrific media campaign. And given current sentiments, I'd be surprised if it took anything like a year to get a million signatories supporting broad anti-bankster measures.
ThatBritGuy:
Even so - it would make a terrific media campaign. And given current sentiments, I'd be surprised if it took anything like a year to get a million signatories supporting broad anti-bankster measures
much better than blairblocking even 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
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