States need walls?... Never mind that, if there is war, there is conquest.

All interesting things were thought in city states in ancient Greece...

And then the city-sates kept attempting conquering each other until all were conquered by Rome. And before that, they spawned a short-lived emperor who reached as far as India.

Meanwhile, students of Chinese history will swear that all interesting thoughts arose there, in what were de-facto nation states and then a single empire.

_{*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

It was hardly one person one vote. It began as more of a committee of oligarchs; the vote was widened to property owning farmers simply for factional purposes. But at no point could one say that even the majority of men in athens had the vote, let alone the population.

Who had the first democracy ? France or the USA, I suspect the English only started lauding Greece to deflect the credit away from rivals.

keep to the Fen Causeway

"All interesting ideas" may be going a bridge too far, unless you have a very nonstandard definition of "interesting."

- Jake

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