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Mines are wonderful, cheap, cheap things. You can litterally throw tens of thousand of them into the sea in a day or two. Any ship can do it: in the old Swedish cold war planning even all those big white cruise liners and the icebreakers where to be mobilized and filled with mines for preemptive mining if the risk of war became too great.

Clearing mines is boring, dangerous and very time-consuming. Not very fun to hang around clearing mines when someone might fire anti-ship missile from nondescript truck-launchers onshore either.

On top of this, mine countermeasures is the ugly bastard child of the US Navy. The mighty US Navy has 14 mine countermeausre vessels, compared to the 11 of the at-best midrange Royal Swedish Navy. To improve things even further, the US mine ships are in a really bad state.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Thu Feb 16th, 2012 at 12:24:35 PM EST
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11 dedicated ships plus another 5 which has mine clearance as a secondary role, so a grand total of 16.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Thu Feb 16th, 2012 at 12:35:23 PM EST
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reported to be 4 in theatre on the map at the top and 4 uk ones

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2012 at 01:55:53 PM EST
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and you only need one to appear, first ship that's transiting the straights that seas a mine floating by, Or explodes, as floating ones are out of date, or if the Iranians announce they are shutting the straights and theyve mined them, and insurance rates instantly go through the roof, and with them oil prices

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2012 at 02:03:54 PM EST
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Btw, the Ghadir class submarines are very able to do it. And also to fire happy torpedoes.

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by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]protonmail[dot]ch) on Thu Feb 16th, 2012 at 04:19:35 PM EST
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