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It has never worked in the two hundred years in which we have had monetary production economies.

And yes you were advocating a policy prescription, because your question is gibberish without the implicit assumption that German wages will keep dropping. If German wages increased by forty or so per cent, Greek wages could perfectly well go back to where they used to be before the crisis and Greece would still recover its competitiveness.

Alternatively, if Greece exited the Eurozone, defaulted on all foreign debt and printed Drachma to sustain its internal economy, wages could also go back to where they were, and Greek competitiveness would be restored through floating the currency.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Feb 18th, 2012 at 09:41:57 AM EST
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again, you are jumping to conclusions.

But regardless - the scenario of yours is certainly debatable, except for the fact that we don't live in a vacuum.

My job isn't going to disappear to Greece (If you'd be so kind as to raise my salary by 40%), my job is going to disappear to China, Taiwan, maybe even Egypt or Malaysia.

Until that issue is solved we have to account for it.

We can't just all descend to the level of Greek productivity and then live happily ever after.

Of course you could then start the money printing presses again to tackle THAT problem - but in the process I would not only find myself at the same or lower standard of living than before (as inflation would eat up all those gains) - I also would lose a good part of whatever meager savings I might have in the bank. Thank you very much.

by cris0 on Sat Feb 18th, 2012 at 10:21:23 AM EST
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My job isn't going to disappear to Greece (If you'd be so kind as to raise my salary by 40%), my job is going to disappear to China, Taiwan, maybe even Egypt or Malaysia.

No, because we devalue the Euro at the same time.

You get to keep your job, you get to buy more stuff from Greece. A Greek chap gets a job selling you stuff.

Everybody wins.

Except Josef Ackerman and his friends, but fuck them.

in the process I would not only find myself at the same or lower standard of living than before (as inflation would eat up all those gains)

No, you would have a higher standard of living, because you would not be giving away part of your national product for free (which is why you do under a mercantilist currency policy like the one Germany currently pursues).

I also would lose a good part of whatever meager savings I might have in the bank.

Yes. That is a feature, not a bug. Money in the bank produce nothing, create nothing, run nothing. You should only keep money in the bank in order to have liquidity. Savings should be invested, not merely deposited in a bank where they do nothing other than draw an excessively generous government subsidy.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Feb 18th, 2012 at 10:37:17 AM EST
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