Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.
Display:
And no, I don't know how to make this happen straight away, but following Sven's theory of consumer power, if someone could set up a "deposits bank" that can advertise that it does no lending, so it's incredibly safe in these troubled times... that might make some waves...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:52:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The thing is, deposits are perfectly safe in any country with a depositor guarantee (Iceland was special). So you don't get to make that selling point.

It's also a very low-margin business, which means you need to piggy-back on some other activity to be able to make payroll, nevermind turn a profit. That activity has to (a) cover a wide geographic area, and (b) be accustomed to handling substantial amounts of cash or cash-equivalent.

That means you'll be piggybacking on banks, supermarkets or post offices. And the last one is going away, so banks or supermarkets.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:07:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm thinking mobile phone operator... because I may be able to seed the idea with one...

But yes, supermarkets are the ones already trying to get into banking.

And at least in the UK, deposits are perfectly safe, but plenty of people don't believe that they are safe...

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:36:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, it's gonna be a loss-leader at least until we get out of the current clusterfuck and central banks start hiking their policy rates back up.

But on the upside, if they can make a safe and convenient "cash app" for phones, they will be able to automate some of the drudgery (and hence cost) associated with handling deposits, because they won't have to shift as much physical cash around.

The latter point might actually be the main business venture for a cell phone operator, at least initially. In Denmark alone (5 million people), it's estimated that firms and banks spend on the order of a billion € a year on handling petty cash. So there should be an R&D grant or two in that project. And a couple of hundred million Euro in licensing revenues if they can get people to switch to it wholesale.

And at least in the UK, deposits are perfectly safe, but plenty of people don't believe that they are safe...

OK, point. But I'd be careful about trying to play on that. Because the BoE and Chancellor might, eh, take exception to people starting bank runs for fun and profit.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:49:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
We can learn from Africa in this area.

No need for research grants.

Now what ?

by pi (etribu-at-opsec.eu) on Sat Mar 3rd, 2012 at 01:16:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Display:

Top Diaries

Project Free-Dumb

by rifek - May 4
3 comments

Growing Food in Hard Times

by gmoke - Apr 20
1 comment

US Rugby

by rifek - Apr 18

There Are No Grown-Ups In Charge

by rifek - Apr 17
2 comments

Occasional Series