Brief Greek election polling update | 33 comments (33 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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- Is an electoral coalition (to get the extra 50 seats) a legal possibility?

There are some requirements (the coalition should run as a united list), but yes. It is.

If yes, is it a political possibility in any constellation? You repeatedly wrote about KKE's going-it-alone attitude, but what is the relationship of SYRIZA and DemAr?

Apparently not. Only SYRIZA is pushing the idea on the left anti-troika side of the table, but the others are not budging. The CP condemns the opportunists who are trying to "save capitalism". The Democratic Left, is trying to be very posh and serious and are flirting with a position "memorandum bad but now it is a done deal, and let's accept it and move forward" so they are not responding either. They are accusing SYRIZA of being some sort of extremists, while they are the "responsible left". Despite the fact that SYRIZA's Left Front platform (demand a moratorium on debt payments for 3-5 years and use a fraction of the money to heat the frozen economy, in some sort of stable environment) is a bit to the right of Paul Krugman.

The Greens seem to be in a bind as not all of the polls show them over the 3% limit. They're vacillating.

Can DemAr be trusted to not fold to the troika once in government?

IMHO, no. They'll lose a few MPs if they do fold, but their right wing is openly pro-troika already to some extent. If they do score as well as the polls show, it is certain that much of their parliamentary team will be former PASOK MPs and cadres...

how do you estimate the chances of Anexartiti Ellines? (Will it be a bursting bubble or could it further damage ND?)

It will damage ND. They have the conservative unions with them, mostly, and quite a few populist commentators and journalists. They have the ear of the conservative grass-roots.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Fri Mar 16th, 2012 at 07:03:18 PM EST
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If Anexartiti Ellines manages to further damage ND or ND otherwise decines to c. 20%, then it would take only any 2 out of SYRIZA (12%), PASOK (11%), and DemAr (15,5%) acting in coalition to achieve the 50 seat bonus and form the core of a new centre left broadly anti-troika Government.

Then the EU would have to impose another ECB Government

We no longer live in a Democracy, it is a Eumocracy...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:15:41 AM EST
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PASOK is not center-left anymore, they were the government that introduced the IMF and austerity: they are not anti-troika

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Tue Mar 20th, 2012 at 06:14:18 PM EST
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You need to repeat that more often.

And, like I predicted in another post, the viciousness with which they'll attack anything on the left during the campaign will make ultra-fascists blush.... Mark my words.

by Euroliberal on Fri Mar 23rd, 2012 at 06:00:04 AM EST
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The so-called "Social Democrats" have occupied the Social Liberal space (especially where there wasn't a pre-existing Social-Liberal party), leaving the traditional Social-Democrat space to be colonised by Socialist or post-communist parties. Just recently in Spain a representative from the United Left said something to the effect of "defending Keynesianism has become akin to defending Marxism" - both in the sense that they on the left are now taking Keynesian positions, but also in the sense that Keynes is now considered as "radical" by the mainstream as Marx was 30 years ago.

But this is nothing new. The Portuguese Social Democratic Party is a centre-right party in the EPP and has given us Barroso. The Danish Venstre ("left") got its name at the turn of the 20th century when liberals were to the left of the political spectrum. Now they are right-wing liberals. They haven't moved, nor has their name changed, but the political spectrum has shifted under them.

There are three stories about the euro crisis: the Republican story, the German story, and the truth. -- Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2012 at 06:09:57 AM EST
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It may be of some interest that according to a recent poll the public perception of PASOK's political inclinations is pretty diverse. 31% (25% among its 2009 voters) can't place it on the left-right spectrum all together, 11,5 (15%) thinks it is center-left,10% (15%) places it at the center, 18,7% (23%) on the center-right, 17% (15,4%) on the right, and 10,6% (7%) on the_extreme_ right! A few years ago it was solidly between center and center left...

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2012 at 06:43:14 AM EST
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I wasn't aware of that. Pretty accurate.

by Euroliberal on Fri Mar 23rd, 2012 at 07:58:14 AM EST
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The poll, (in Greek) MSWord file p.54

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2012 at 08:36:25 AM EST
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