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In Spain there are something "worse than fascism" today's politicians are the grandchildren of grandparents, no children from their parents, ie caciquismo (perversion of the idea and the use of the power).

 UI is marked in Spain, very different from what it was in Greece. The Socialist Party is also marked and no alternative leaders.

 Since people from IU, from the PSOE, and new people, a new party would be required, unmarked, looking to the future.

 I quit. Sorry. I have to go to the doctor.

by PerCLupi on Thu Jun 14th, 2012 at 10:04:59 AM EST
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This is one of the problems that I see with the indignados. They could very well challenge established parties if they chose to participate in electoral politics, but there's a reticence to enter politics. If they did, you would have a Syriza type party.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Jun 14th, 2012 at 10:21:41 AM EST
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I have 1/2 hour. I agree.


by PerCLupi on Thu Jun 14th, 2012 at 10:36:11 AM EST
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