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I don't understand why people are going back over 100 years on Greek history.

Or 30 years.

Makes no sense.

30 years ago, Greece had a skeletal gov't and absolutely no gov't services. No gov't workers practically. It was a banana republic, and acted like one. 10 years prior to that they were a fascist regime. 15 years before that they were an American proxy. 5 years before that they were in civil war. 5 years before that they were occupied by a fascist army. 5 years before that they were governed by fascists. 10 years before that there was a national schism between the King and a rump new Greece in the north that had joined the country after WW1.

How far do we really have to go back to talk about Greeks sins, really?

Do Americans talk about Boss Tweed still?

Should we?

by Upstate NY on Mon Sep 3rd, 2012 at 10:44:27 PM EST
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i don't think the tone is prosecutorial, but maybe i would if i were greek, dunno.

are the facts true or not, is what's interesting.

it's not like any counties in europe have exemplary histories!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 04:11:05 AM EST
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Until Andreas Papandreou, Greece had no gov't services to speak of, at all. That was 30 years ago. So, factually, the article is untrue. But even with Papandreou, the increase in gov't workers from incredibly low levels to levels still smaller not only than the European average but smaller than the USA's (by %) was only a sop for the left since the country's economy was still first and foremost a playground for oligarchs.

Greece went awry since the introduction of the euro.

by Upstate NY on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 09:54:52 AM EST
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American memory doesn't reach that far back.  As the old saw goes, "In Europe, 100 miles is a long way.  In the US, 100 years is a long time."
by rifek on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 03:28:59 PM EST
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With the fast trains in Europe, and the continuing US blockade on Cuba for something or other than happened before most of us were born, I wonder whether it's time to revise this?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 03:52:05 PM EST
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The Cuban Revolution was 1912? Here I thought that was the Mexican one.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 12:45:57 AM EST
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