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an official property sale price against which tax is paid, and then an unofficial price

That's often the case in (parts at least of) France. As far as I've had knowledge of transactions, however, the "under the table" cash settlement rarely exceeds 10% of the total agreed price.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 28th, 2013 at 02:19:17 AM EST
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Twenty years ago, a certain person not unclosely related to the present writer paid 25% of the agreed price for a decaying farmhouse in the Lyon region, in cash. It took us the person a few months to accumulate enough banknotes, taking out the weekly limit from money machines.

The notary tried to trap the two parties into declaring the full price, but was unable to drive a wedge between them.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jan 28th, 2013 at 06:07:22 AM EST
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Did the person encounter a cash withdrawal limit at the bank itself?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 28th, 2013 at 06:16:27 AM EST
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He The person may have thought that by using ATMs nobody would notice the withdrawals.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jan 28th, 2013 at 06:21:22 AM EST
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Since the person was banking in France, and there is no limit there on cash payments between physical persons in a private setting, I'm wondering if banks can legally place a limit on withdrawals in specie. I don't know the answer.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 28th, 2013 at 08:08:14 AM EST
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The person was young and naïve, and perhaps didn't want to answer any friendly yet embarrassing questions about what the money was for. This was in a bygone golden era when banks kept up some sort of tradition or pretense of human contact with the clientele.

For my part, until a couple of years I had my accounts in a very small town, where staff turnover at the bank was low, and there was indeed friendly personal interaction, leading often to going the extra mile in the customer's interest, which is obviously a sub-optimal behaviour in terms of cost effectiveness (assuming they had a captive client). In recent months, having moved to a city branch of the same bank, it's clear that there's none of that nonsense going on there. In fact, I am in conflict with the bank over a sum of a few thousand euros, which they bloody well will reimburse me in the end (even if they don't know it yet), but it wouldn't have taken several months if anyone at the bank had simply had the customer's interest at heart.

The result of this is that I will change banks when the dust settles. Either to a small co-op bank, which will no doubt be inconvenient and offer fewer services, but which might be expected to behave itself better. Or to the cheapest virtual bank I can find : just the services, with no illusions about human involvement.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jan 28th, 2013 at 08:24:23 AM EST
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Switch to Handelsbanken. ;)

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by Starvid on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 11:01:03 PM EST
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Hi, Starvid. (Didn't notice the hot tip between brackets ;)).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jan 31st, 2013 at 01:55:03 AM EST
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