Fete de la Musique, Liberation area, Nice, 2013 | 14 comments (14 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

DJs are like every other form of western music over the past centuries.

It's a Bell Curve, and only the stuff on the very right of the curve counts anywhere anyway.

Including Loud, which (at discrete times) can be an antidote to the black swamp madness infusing our former civilization.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Jun 23rd, 2013 at 03:15:47 PM EST

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62% of regular clubbers and 72% of regular concert goers report problems with their hearing.
Concerts and nightclubs produce sounds that can register up to 120 decibels, louder than a pneumatic drill. In the workplace employees are required to wear hearing protection when levels exceed 85 decibels.
Reports of tinnitus - ringing in the ears - experienced by young people exposed to loud music have increased threefold since the early 1980s.
The report found that 6.8% of people not regularly exposed to loud music of 85 decibels or over suffer from tinnitus compared to 20% of people who are.
Symptoms in some cases last only a few hours, but they are a sign that damage to hearing has occurred.
The damage is cumulative and permanent, and the risk increases with greater volume and longer exposure.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/409987.stm

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Jun 23rd, 2013 at 05:42:14 PM EST
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You've correctly pointed out that the danger is in the loudness (even more for concert-goers), identifying the culprit being sound pressure capability of modern systems.

Which is not the same as slagging DJ music, which is just as much music as any other genre.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 25th, 2013 at 06:46:14 AM EST
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Sure, but specifically, the idea of the Fête de la Musique is that it's the day when non-pros can do their stuff. DJs, albeit amateurs, twiddling knobs and playing records doesn't meet the criteria.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Tue Jun 25th, 2013 at 10:45:08 AM EST
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That's what i thought when my then 17 year old son told me, "Pop, i want to be a composer. But i don't think i'll ever make money doing that. So i want my day job to be in music. I will be a damn good DJ."

My answer, "You ass. You're so damn talented, what are you going to do, play records other people made?"

It took me about 8 months to realize that DJ'ing was a new instrument, with all the possibilities that entails. I'm forever glad i came to that realization without wasting years being an old fogey.

DJs, albeit amateurs, twiddling knobs and playing records doesn't meet the criteria.

PS. In an interview for a music mag, after his pioneering success in being one of the earliest house DJ's making the Frisco scene famous (and after him being the first western DJ to play Beijing), he was asked to comment on the effect of some of his best work. His answer: "There's some kid (twiddling knobs) in his bedroom somewhere tonight, who will blow us all away in a few months." or something to that effect.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 25th, 2013 at 04:16:39 PM EST
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I didn't make any judgment about the quality of DJ music - your "lawn" - so wasn't on it. What I said was:

most of the local bars and restaurants had egomaniacal DJs who think louder is better

I was referring specifically to the problem of loudness - and some local places on this night. However I think the problem of loudness is widespread, amongst DJs - in my limited experience - but also in live concerts and music in pubs - hence the general increase in hearing damage in recent decades as reported by the BBC.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Tue Jun 25th, 2013 at 02:27:18 PM EST
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since i agree on the effects of loudness, to which i suffer, i apologize for thinking you were slagging electronic music or house music, 10% of which i find truly amazing.

And i was using "lawn" with a smile, Ted. (even if i didn't put the thingey there.)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 25th, 2013 at 04:07:38 PM EST
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I've learned to keep earplugs in my pocket or purse at all times. It's sad how often I need them.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sat Jul 20th, 2013 at 02:32:55 AM EST
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Fete de la Musique, Liberation area, Nice, 2013 | 14 comments (14 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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