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Redistribution wont fix the trade deficit. Egypt has to either grow a lot more food, or grow a major export industry so that it can afford to buy it. Redistribution might be useful for doing that but it would be more accurately described as "forced investment" and "dirigism". Available resources: A lot of desert, a lot of people, and a location on a humongous sea trade route. Uhm. Looked at like that, this is workable.. I mean, if you want to build a gazillion seawater green houses there are all those idle hands that would be happy to do that, and moving materials in and produce out is quite doable..
by Thomas on Sun Jul 14th, 2013 at 05:10:22 PM EST
 food for local development, energetically self-sufficient, with pisciculture to fertilise the fruit and vegetables- organic medjool dates, pistachios, pomegranates, persimmons...

i hope egypt's new leaders will see along these lines too!

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 14th, 2013 at 08:34:06 PM EST
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Of course the whole Nile valley could use freshwater greenhouses. The good move would be for Gulf Coast Council states to provide capital that is used to set up manufacturing in Egypt for the materials. The problem is keeping Western capital rent seeking out of the process which Gulf state money could do by following Islamic Finance, which would make Muslim Brotherhood types happy. Actually, that might be a good way to use their organizing ability in a productive way.

If greenhouse agriculture provides a net savings of freshwater that savings could be used for irrigation of cotton crops. Then relatively modest investments in used cloth looms and sewing machines yields a domestic clothing chain. Keep that up, undo two centuries of imperial economic domination, and Egypt's economy might get well. But the current US dependent military is unlikely to be enthusiastic about this unless it got the green light from Washington - which is doubtful. However a lot of progress could be made by staying under the radar and using Islamic finance. Just don't call it that when talking to Westerners.  

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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jul 14th, 2013 at 11:19:48 PM EST
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The first problem in manufacturing for either import or export substitution is competence.

Iran under the Shah had substantial import substitution programs. Jane Jacobs reported visiting Iran, and having an Iranian show here Iranian made knives ... which had the handle fall apart from the blade. I don't know the details myself, but my first guess would be a situation where loyalty to the regime is sufficiently suspect that those advocating changes in the spirit of the instinct of workmanship are translated for higher ups into malcontents against the regime.

And that is not something that can be imported from some higher income country, as the means that higher income countries use to promote competence are adapted to their own cultures ... witness the struggles that Japanese senior management can have operating in Germany, and those are two cultures that in their own way are highly effective at encouraging competence.

How to effectively promote competence in the context of Egyptian society is something that has to be arrived at by the Egyptian people themselves. Now, surely, given that but a misguided economic development strategy they can still fail, but failing that the best economic development strategy in the world is likely to fall short.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Jul 15th, 2013 at 01:25:22 AM EST
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I found this, this and this on the subject of manufacturing competence in Egypt. It seems the problem is not insurmountable.


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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:27:58 AM EST
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Note that the first is proposing how to address an existing problem of lack of competence in textile manufacturing.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jul 16th, 2013 at 12:14:06 PM EST
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And this article should be quite reassuring to Muslim Brotherhood types. :-)
Given the unemployment levels even for university educated young adults in Egypt it should be possible to develop several local industries.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:38:41 AM EST
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