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and put a shitload of small Kneipen (pubs) in danger of going out of business in NRW (no smoking period).

In the polls, it doesn't matter if this is merely believed or is actually happening. But for the curious mind, is small pubs in NWR going out of business?

Because the same was claimed loudly in Sweden when smoking was banned in all restaurants and pubs, and then nothing happened. People drink, go outside to smoke (and it is a bit chillier here in the winters) and then go inside and drink some more. Only effect I know about is that people in the beginning complained about the smell at dancing establishments. Previously the smoke had covered the smell of sweat. But I guess they eventually invested in air fresheners or something.

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Sep 2nd, 2013 at 08:11:26 AM EST
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i believe the new law is too new to have specifically caused closings already. But there is a huge uprising, where many owners have said they were now over the border of insolvency. I know of specific instances where much larger numbers of complaints from neighbors have been logged, aimed at those outside smoking. (Of course in summer and fall, the smokers tend to stay outside.)

the situation might be a bit different in Germany, with a culture of perhaps more very small traditional pubs.

Here in Bremen,the compromises seem to be working well. But in NRW there was zero compromise.

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by Crazy Horse on Mon Sep 2nd, 2013 at 10:06:17 AM EST
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So small businesses whine.

Hands up, who's surprised?

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Sep 2nd, 2013 at 01:08:45 PM EST
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