Australian Greens lose ground in Australian Federal Election | 22 comments (22 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

I should add that there was a Bullet Train Party. (none / 1)

In NSW, advocating a Bullet Train from Newcastle to Melbourne promptly, rather than a Bullet Train from Sydney to Canberra eventually, as proposed by the ALP government.

Bullet Train For Australia Votes: 6,672 (0.21%), 1.46% of a quota.

In the 12th count, they received a distribution of 1,798 votes from the Building Australia Party

In the 20th count they received a distribution of 1,818 from the Senator Online Voting party that had originally flowed to the Stable Population Party.

In the 28th count, they were excluded, with their primary vote flowing to the Australian Democrats, their Building Austalia preferences flowing to No Climate Change Skeptics, and their preferences from Senate Online Voting flowing to the Animal Justice Party.

In the 36th count, when the Dems were excluded, their primary vote flowed to the Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party.

In the 39th count, when AMEP was excluded, their primary vote flowed to the Sex Party

In the 43rd count, when the Sex Party was excluded, their primary vote flowed to the Shooters and Fishers.

Finally, on the 45th and final count in NSW, their primary vote flowed to the Green Parties, which lost to the Liberal candidate in the final count by 500,394 to 409,919.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Sep 8th, 2013 at 09:36:56 PM EST

Re: I should add that there was a Bullet Train (4.00 / 2)

Technically, I believe the eliminations above are projections (based, I assume, on the ABC News Australia Votes page.) That same page reports that less than 70% of the Senate vote in NSW has actually been counted to date. As noted, minor changes in vote counts can change the elimination order of small parties, with sometimes large flow-on effects. That said, this does not appear to be the case in the specific example above.

by External Student on Sun Sep 8th, 2013 at 10:46:14 PM EST
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Re: I should add that there was a Bullet Train (none / 1)

Yes, those are projections based on the preferences lodged by the parties themselves and the official primary votes.

Voting below the line which would lead to some primary votes taking their own path could modify those results, but given the quite low incidence of formal below the line voting in NSW (that is where there were 110 candidates on the ballot paper, so you would have to get 99 entered with no more than two continuity errors), its not likely to be different to those results.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Sep 8th, 2013 at 10:58:24 PM EST
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Re: I should add that there was a Bullet Train (none / 1)

Yeah perfect illustration of the friggin' absurdity of the system as it actually works, as opposed to how it ought to work theoretically. You and I (and possibly Bruce and, globally, perhaps 0.5% of the voting population) would take great pleasure in filling in our preferences in detail, based on our true ideological preferences and/or whatever tactical considerations we might personally countenance. But the above-the-line system gives you this Chinese Whispers sort of outcome, which possibly comes out alright (insofar as one imagines that those in favour of a bullet train would favour the Greens over the Liberals) but only by some sort of fluke.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Mon Sep 9th, 2013 at 04:46:43 AM EST
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Re: I should add that there was a Bullet Train (none / 1)

Maybe if I was in Tassie, but if I was in NSW ~ which is where I lived when I was in Oz ~ no way I could fill in 100 of 110 names with only two continuity errors. I might have a go, but in the end I would have to also put a number above the line to avoid the risk of it being an informal ballot.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Sep 9th, 2013 at 07:26:03 AM EST
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Australian Greens lose ground in Australian Federal Election | 22 comments (22 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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