The Greek deal opens for expansionist e-currency | 115 comments (115 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

You could probably add Hollande to that list.

But why are the so-called socialist parties hostile? What needs to change to make them supportive?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Mar 1st, 2015 at 12:42:29 PM EST
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What needs to change to make them supportive?

Brain transplants. Living brains for starters. Theirs have been zombified.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Mar 1st, 2015 at 12:48:54 PM EST
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Re: Enemies (4.00 / 3)

But France is not a crisis country.

"So-called socialist" parties in Europe are actually all in favour of 'sound finance' and of 'austerity later'. They are fully wedded to the Eurozone institutional structure as it is now and see no need to reform it. And, in the case of Greece, evidently their local allies are Pasok, Kinima and maybe To Potami so purely out of tribal allegiance Syriza is not one of them.

The Social Democrats also have a superiority complex relative to those to the left of them (the "lyrical left", "traditional left", "romantic left"...). They see them as idealists who just need to grow up and learn more about politics.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 1st, 2015 at 01:19:23 PM EST
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Re: Enemies (4.00 / 3)

They see them as idealists who just need to grow up and learn more about politics.

Something that looks ever more comical when coming from serial election losers and junior coalition partners.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sun Mar 1st, 2015 at 01:30:42 PM EST
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Re: Enemies (4.00 / 3)

This (with my emphasis) is representative of that attitude:

This discourse is what irritates the Social Democrats most. "We share many values, but we doubt whether their anti-establishment position will be compatible with the politics of compromise," says Kathleen Van Brempt, a heavyweight among European Social Democrats. The Belgian MEP admits to "sympathy" for this "traditional left" but urges them to reconsider their stance contrary to negotiating with other groups: "In Europe, to take your proposals forward, one must reach agreements with other forces."

(El País, 2 November 2014)

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 1st, 2015 at 01:58:15 PM EST
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Re: Enemies (none / 1)

Like Demcrats in the USA they found it necessary to take the money of the rich and then had to find ways to still look themselves in the mirror. They succeeded in that.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Mar 1st, 2015 at 02:02:03 PM EST
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The Greek deal opens for expansionist e-currency | 115 comments (115 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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