Footing the bill in Libya | 13 comments (13 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Looking back my comment was less than useful. (none / 0)

The point I wanted to make is that the only war that definitely wouldn't have happened without Russian involvement is the annexation of Crimea. The broader civil war probably would have started anyway, except of course that the separatists would most likely have lost by now.
And I'm not disputing that the Tatar minority now faces considerable repression, just that I haven't heard anything credible about mass expulsions.

by generic on Fri May 8th, 2015 at 05:52:36 AM EST
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Re: Looking back my comment was less than useful. (none / 0)

just that I haven't heard anything credible about mass expulsions.

That's okay then. There aren't mass expulsions in the ukriane either, so what?

Und people like Girkin admiotted that they started the "civil war" in eastern Ukraine.

by IM on Fri May 8th, 2015 at 06:02:57 AM EST
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By 'mass expulsions' read 'population displacements'.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 8th, 2015 at 06:13:37 AM EST
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Re: Looking back my comment was less than useful. (none / 0)

Going by the BBC the total number of Tatar refugees is in the order of 8000. That's what 3-4% ? So still less of a crime against humanity than the austerity in Latvia. And far from what Vladimir did in Chechnya.

by generic on Fri May 8th, 2015 at 07:28:39 AM EST
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It is realistic that Crimea would have the Dombas-type bloody war soon (and until now), without that Russian annexation. Does that make the Russian involvement in Crimea humanitarian?

by das monde on Sat May 9th, 2015 at 12:00:39 PM EST
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