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You have to see how many more people are killed by guns in America to actually believe it - The Washington Post
"At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries," Barack Obama said today in response to the killings in Charleston. "It doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency."

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On that point, he's absolutely right: when it comes to gun homicide, the U.S. stands out from the rest of the world's wealthy nations. According to homicide data collected by the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, and compiled by The Guardian newspaper, the U.S.'s annual gun homicide rate of 2.97 fatalities per 100,000 people is triple the rate seen in most of the world's other wealthy nations, defined in this chart as countries belonging to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. It excludes Latin American countries like Mexico that have traditionally had high murder rates, often due to political instability and the drug war.

The chart in the article was re-tweetted by several people.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sun Jun 21st, 2015 at 10:15:34 AM EST
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Bernard:
the U.S.'s annual gun homicide rate of 2.97 fatalities per 100,000 people is triple the rate seen in most of the world's other wealthy nations

Bullshit. Statement completely unsupported by the data It is four times the rate of the second ranked wealthy nation (Switzerland, where 72% of all homicides are by firearm, and, coincidentally, every able-bodied man has a gun).

More like ten times the rate seen in most of the world's other wealthy nations.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jun 22nd, 2015 at 06:39:14 AM EST
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every able-bodied man has a gun

But not ammunition, which limits what you (or your kids) can do with it.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2015 at 07:43:45 AM EST
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Still, there was this, where an army weapon was part of the (legal) arsenal, and there have been several smaller amok runs. The reaction is not much better than in the USA: an attempt to identify possible perpetrators beforehand (and take guns only from them).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 22nd, 2015 at 10:50:54 AM EST
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But not ammunition

Allow me to be sceptical about that. How does one explain that 10% of French murders, and 75% of Swiss murders, are by firearm?

Italy also has a high rate of murder by gun (66%), (source), which my prejudice leads me to ascribe to organised crime and illegal weapons. Perhaps it is the same in Switzerland?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jun 22nd, 2015 at 11:56:11 AM EST
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There's nothing to stop you buying your own ammunition. But you can't keep state-issued ammunition at home. Or you could just buy it in Austria - In Liechtenstein last year 100% of the murders were by firearm, and the murderer got his weapon in Austria after having been banned from owning one.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2015 at 12:31:57 PM EST
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And nothing to be done about it short of a constitutional amendment, courtesy the Fascist Five on Our Glorious SCOTUS, which went full Kopel in its last 2nd Amendment case.
by rifek on Mon Jun 22nd, 2015 at 10:35:07 AM EST
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