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Jesus Christ.

Is there a Europe or isn't there? It really doesn't seem that hard a question.

Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other. -- Dr Johnson

by melvin (melvingladys at or near yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 05:13:07 PM EST
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There is. It's gearing up to crush Greece with economic warfare.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 05:20:18 PM EST
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And then?

Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other. -- Dr Johnson
by melvin (melvingladys at or near yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 05:25:05 PM EST
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Well - that's the 64 trillion dollar question.

But I wonder if the IMF are in fact perfectly happy with a divided Europe pockmarked by fascist nationalist governments. There certainly seems to be no interest in preventing that outcome.

Instead of a two-speed Europe you then have a half-speed Europe, where the various countries eye each other suspiciously and are reliably unable to agree on anything that doesn't involve bullying or exploiting a weaker partner.

If you're a neoliberal, what's not to like?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 09:42:30 PM EST
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The IMF is a US creature, and the US has never had a problem with a divided world pockmarked by fascist nationalist governments, so long as they were willing to give us our cut.
by rifek on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 11:38:49 PM EST
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Europe is there, back with the historical tradition of a continent-wide conflict.
by das monde on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 08:36:31 PM EST
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Though the question there is whether there is a Eurozone or not. The answer is, financially, yes, for purposes of any form of democratic oversight, not officially. {squint} Well, if the finance ministers of the Eurozone happen to encounter one another, maybe perhaps they could chat about the Eurozone as a topic.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jun 30th, 2015 at 08:06:58 AM EST
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