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Indeed. There are laws against hate speech, calls for murder and the like. These laws need to be enforced. We should be wary of supporting Facebook's position that it has the right to set "community standards" and that's that. That only leads to standards that demand the censorship of photos of cup cakes. I want to see democratically adopted law applied.
by Katrin on Tue Aug 11th, 2015 at 04:13:09 PM EST
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Here the goal should not just be to keep racists from expressing their views in public, but to keep them from banding together on some pages (like in that closed Facebook group 'warning' each other of foreign-looking people). What do you think is more effective: forcing corporations (by law of citizen action) to employ moderators to find and suspend such formations, or more direct action (state employees telling the company to suspend specific pages as done in other issues)?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Aug 12th, 2015 at 10:36:28 AM EST
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You won't get proper law enforcement without massive citizen protests; Fjallström below explains why. So what needs to be done is protests against facebook etc. AND against prosecutors not doing their jobs. Corporations ARE already under the obligation to take reasonable measures against hate speech and the like. And as you say: it works more or less.
by Katrin on Wed Aug 12th, 2015 at 01:46:47 PM EST
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There is a whole flood of articles on the subject of on-line anti-refugee hate speech now. Here are two relevant to our earlier discussion:

  • Süddeutsche lists cases when on-line hate-mongers were successfully sued or when they lost their appeal against being fired by their employers.
  • In an op-ed on Spiegel Online, a journalist tells his story with an abusive emailer who used his company email address, who was fired after his complaint (though he got that information half a year later).


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 11:36:53 AM EST
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That's the pressure we need. I've seen a call on Twitter not to waste time with Facebook's "report" button, but to contact the companies whose ads are visible where hate speech appears. That might work even better.

I expect that Facebook will react sooner or later, but only in those countries where pressure is strong, and probably only as long as there is pressure.

by Katrin on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 02:31:57 PM EST
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