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So if the army is deployed, are they going to start shooting rubber bullets like they do it in Ceuta? They already use tear gas don't they?

Schengen is toast!
by epochepoque on Fri Sep 11th, 2015 at 11:02:42 PM EST
The law changes from next Tuesday include a re-definition of firearms use which excludes rubber bullets and tear gas, which is pretty much a preparation for violence. Furthermore, since the start of the crisis Monday last week, Fidesz leaders repeatedly claimed (without evidence, in fact against evidence) that the refugees are "increasingly violent", obviously an attempt to prepare the domestic population for violent interventions. The reason they didn't resort to it before (for example at Keleti Wednesday last week, when riot police stood ready to drive the refugees into a train but aborted the mission) was that the refugees failed to give an excuse (there were sane ad-hoc leaders who discouraged any rioting) and international media was present. I fear they will have an easier time escalating conflict at Röszke.

But whatever happens, expect a golden era for smugglers.

  • Based on the difference of numbers arriving at the last refugee camp in Serbia (5,000 in the last few days) and 'illegal immigrants' caught in Hungary (around 3,500 in the last two days), it seems at least 1,500 a day can pass the border fence without detection.
  • Reporters say that the parking lots of gas stations near Röszke are filled with hundreds of smugglers, strutting around quite openly, but police feels powerless because they would have to catch the smugglers in action. (Though methinks if they really wanted to, they could have registered license plates in the parking lots and then colleagues closer to Austria could stop and search cars in a targeted fashion.)
  • While the opportunistic domestic smugglers might focus on ripping off the refugees (see upthread), reporters say that the more organized (especially gangs from Serbia previously focusing on cigarette smuggling) are investing in night vision gear and network for mutual warning.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 12th, 2015 at 04:41:30 AM EST
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