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How much of this is a conscious remodeling of Hungary by Fidesz to an Eastern cleptocracy? Beyond power politics do they somehow think this is a more sustainable model than liberal democracy? Is it some coherent ideology or just ego and culture?

Schengen is toast!
by epochepoque on Thu May 5th, 2016 at 03:32:35 PM EST
Very apt question. For Orbán, there is definitely an ideology behind it: he made the point that liberal democracy is in decline and that countries like Turkey or Russia are models for success in several speeches, and defined his model "illiberal democracy". I'm less sure about his minions, especially the second-generation leaders: I think they are best described as yuppies without any scruples, in it for personal advancement and nothing more.

Considering how ham-fisted the referendum-thwarting attempts were, and how cheap the central bank head's money-for-friends tricks were, my hunch is that the main culprits were single minions and Orbán (and thus the entire regime) wasn't necessarily in the know in advance.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri May 6th, 2016 at 01:03:53 AM EST
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What would likely happen in the absence of Orban?


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri May 6th, 2016 at 01:00:31 PM EST
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