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There are astonishing postings all over the Remain groups from LibDems trying to push the false equivalence line that Remainers shouldn't vote Labour because Labour are a pro-Brexit party. Which makes them just as bad as the Tories.

It's absolutely true that Corbyn seems committed to Brexit, which is not a recommendation. But the LDs seem to think Corbyn's negotiated Brexit, with a commitment to protect worker rights and keep economic damage to a minimum, is a bigger threat to world peace and prosperity than May's threatened insane nuclear Brexit.

It honestly makes me wonder if the LDs are an Establishment front designed to split the progressive vote. That's always been their effect, all the way back to the days when they were the Soc Dems. 2010 doesn't exactly argue against that theory.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 30th, 2017 at 03:10:47 PM EST
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Fortunately the LibDems are pretty much irrelevant in this election. Few seem to have forgiven them for the coalition.

Equally, just as the Tories thought this election was about brexit, the LibDems seem to have made the same mistake; neither realising that the UK electorate view it as a done deal and are moving on to other more pressing matters such as housing, jobs the NHS etc etc.

But yes, with the Orange Bookers still in the ascendancy, their neoliberal fervour is even greater than that of the Blairites, but with far less interst of those who lose out. Frankly right now there are 9 too many LibDem MPs and I hope we will soon see an end to them.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue May 30th, 2017 at 03:41:06 PM EST
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It's absolutely true that Corbyn seems committed to Brexit, which is not a recommendation. But the LDs seem to think Corbyn's negotiated Brexit, with a commitment to protect worker rights and keep economic damage to a minimum, is a bigger threat to world peace and prosperity than May's threatened insane nuclear Brexit.

Brexit is the main mess he'd have to address, and he would do it with the dignity needed to get a genuinely mutually beneficial outcome.
He's characterially unprovocative, temperate in his arguments, and eminently reasonable.

He will not pull the bad faith capers the UK is so notorious in Europe for, and would help create a fairer, more equitable unity, supposing anyone there will listen.
He's humble without being ingratiating, calm but firm, a steady hand on the tiller.
Meanwhile the Tories are running out of dirty tricks they can use under the radar, (now this FB scam is exposed). Thanks to social media hot-wiring public opinion with increasing effect, the young are especially drawn to his chilled vibe. Concerned, tenacious and grounded is how he comes across, but above all genuine.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jun 5th, 2017 at 09:53:53 AM EST
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