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It is not that things have not been bad elsewhere, but it is very difficult to cope with sudden reverses in living standards. As so many have noted, if we crash out of europe with no deal, the UK is literally 3 weeks from running out of food.

even if the government have stockpiled food (as rumours suggest) using the recently established infrastructure of foodbanks, there are going to be an awful lot of pissed off people roaming around looking for somebody to blame. I doubt retribution will involve letters to the Daily Mail; there will be blood

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jul 18th, 2018 at 08:46:03 PM EST
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Yes. Welcome to the Rest of the World.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Jul 18th, 2018 at 09:07:15 PM EST
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Yes, the US is some way ahead of that curve, with almost unparalleled levels of inequality and political dysfunction. Not quite Somalia, but a far cry from where it was as recently as the 1990's.

The UK, too, has overcome major crises during World wars I and II. But what characterised those crises was almost unparalleled national unity and community spirit.

What I think Helen fears is not only severely reduced standards of living for those already least able to afford it, but major increases in crime and civil disorder - and not just in coal mining communities as in the past.

For a country which has recently been one of the wealthiest and most stable in the World, that is a long way to fall.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Jul 18th, 2018 at 09:28:50 PM EST
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First, correcting Helen is inappropriate. I take her sincere reply with utmost respect. I asked her, to see the fear, name it, is the first prerequisite to transcending the fear. For fear is the mind-killer.

Second, the USA has been a cesspool of wealth and iniquity for some scores of generations. Don't hand me a comp to Somalia. I'm not having it. Neither should Helen. Nobody in Somalia ever promised me and 300M more people equal "opportunity," liberty, and protection under the law.

The illusion of safety in the UK and USA is dissolving as it should in order to reveal true friends and "foes".

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Jul 18th, 2018 at 11:23:42 PM EST
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We need to up our preparations when it comes to Brexit, says Irish PM

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Jul 18th, 2018 at 11:28:38 PM EST
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Good to see Ireland is starting to cognize reality.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Thu Jul 19th, 2018 at 12:21:48 AM EST
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by Cat on Thu Jul 19th, 2018 at 01:40:08 AM EST
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