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It also "predicts turmoil in Parliament, public disagreement among members of the Cabinet, probable changes in Cabinet personnel, and movements to increase the power of the voters over the political system." I could have told you that. The economic boom, not so much: I suspect the astrologer, who takes a very UK centric view of the world, has forgotten that all those departing immigrants also produced much of Britain's wealth.

I read through all the comments and surprisingly few were specifically astrological, easy enough to skip!
I was pleasantly surprised by how much common sense there was to be found, even with a large variety of opinions about this thorniest of issues, how to break up, stay friends and see each other every day across the channel fence.
Greer's belief is that large modern superstate political configurations are doomed in spite of their promise of increased efficiency a.because they were designed in a period of steadily waxing western economies using the near-free ride of easily extracted combustible energy and b. because they demand servility and deliver homogeneity, a one-size model that deculturates traditional national differences and fails to successfully shoehorn them all into harmony of shared interests.
As memories of the horrors of WW2 recede, the fear-based arguments for the EU's inception and continued existence correspondingly wane in the electorate's awareness.
So what is left as cohesion inducement?
Macron's vision, when his own country voted him in out of fear and is rapidly losing faith in his policies?
He has already served as hatchet man for business interests at the cost of workers' rights, his attitude to Italy has become rancid lately and his hypocrisy on immigration while his own banlieues are simmering in racism is making him as unpopular in the rest of Europe as he is in France.
His eager readiness to enter the fray in Syria, while never apologising for Sarkozy's blunder's having caused much of today's immigration overload, is revealing enough for many to see who he is and what he stands for.
Germany is losing its fear of being the Bad Guy and what anyone else thinks about it, while the sheer mass of its economy steadily colonises the rest of Europe through debt and worry about Chemnitz and what that might mean if something doesn't shift.

Maybe Wagenacht will be the next Merkel.

Maybe Salvini will go down in the polls with his new legal problems.

I think Greer is right about globalism and huge superstates that promise much and fail to deliver a dividend of safety against a repeat of the hard right future deja vu we see erupting these days.

Brexit or Bremain? Frying pan or fire?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2018 at 08:37:13 AM EST
My issue with Greer is his assumption that Brexit offers the UK the prospect of an economic boom when businesses are freed from Brussel's bureaucratic meddling and workers are freed from competition from EU immigrants.

I also find it difficult to take lectures in democracy from the only country in Europe with an entirely unelected chamber of parliament, no written constitution, an antediluvian FPTP single seat constituency political system which delivers wildly unrepresentative results and renders many votes pointless, and a media controlled by a few oligarchs who are not slow to subvert the democratic process in their interests.

Generally the UK has had a negative influence on the EU (and Ireland), and I am not too sorry to see it leave, even though I regret the harm that Brexit could do to my friends and the many fine people there. The extreme nationalist impulse behind many Brexiteers could also render Europe a very dangerous place if replicated across the continent. So for me, it is very important that Brexit be seen to fail.

Obviously I could be wrong, and a "red, white and blue" Brexit could prove to be an unalloyed success, at least for the UK. I might then even have to concede there might be something to astrology beyond the projection of repressed desires onto a dubious conceptual framework. I still expect that Brexit, and particularly a no deal Brexit to be little better than a disaster for the UK, economically, politically and socially. We shall see who's prognostication skills ends up being the more accurate.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sat Sep 8th, 2018 at 10:45:12 AM EST
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Even the far right is against cherry picking: Brexit: sympathy without support from Europe's right - BBC
"It is right to be tough," Andreas Rabl, the Freedom Party mayor of Wels told us, endorsing the European Commission's negotiating stance. "If it is possible for countries to exit and enjoy the same advantages as before, when they were still EU members, that would be a fatal signal to all other EU countries".

Schengen is toast!
by epochepoque on Sat Sep 8th, 2018 at 10:31:26 PM EST
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I think "superstate" is a misnomer.

Voluntary and involuntary political division of territory have been successful for a very, very long time. So has government ("clowncils") of confederate and federal ("leagues") political divisions (principalities, duchies, kingdoms, nations, nation-states, states, tribes, counties, provinces, protectorates, colonies, soviets, teams, &tc).

Greer smells like libertarian libertine autodidact trying to work out how to dispose of non-productive bodies (pun intended) without anyone noticing.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Sep 8th, 2018 at 06:16:14 PM EST
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Bollocks to Greer. The EU is failing because the option of making it democratic and transparent was never even tried. It was built by technocrats,  shaped by lobbyists and instrumentalised by national politicians; civil society never got a look in.

As for Brexit, a nation of shopkeepers with a belligerant "what's in it for me?" attitude is slowly and painfully coming to the realisation that there was actually quite a lot in it for them... But too late, as their (untranslateable) British bloody-mindedness dictates that they must put the foot to the floor and drive right off the cliff.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Sep 10th, 2018 at 03:26:56 PM EST
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