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The point about those red lines needs to be... underlined in red?

May started out believing she could pull a Margaret Thatcher and impose her will. She could dictate the frame within which the "deal" would be negotiated. And so, red lines on movement of persons, customs union, EU law, etc.

From there, all discussion was set into narrow channels that could logically only end with the crappy "deal" she put before Parliament yesterday. The EU, in any case, had neither interest, obligation, nor other motive to bend over backwards to accommodate her. Barnier courteously held the paint-pot while she painted herself into a corner.

The extent to which this is not understood in British politics is mind-boggling. I just heard the leader of UK Conservatives in Paris say that a new agreement would be put together and applied "whether the EU likes it or not".

Words fail.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2019 at 08:33:10 PM EST
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Typical Britain: thinking it can still impose its will on the world, whether they like it or not. The UK really needs to do something about its inbred establishment.
by IdiotSavant on Wed Jan 16th, 2019 at 08:52:27 PM EST
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Maybe reality will appear over the horizon after we've crashed out and the UK disintegrates with no food, no trade and thus no employment.

But I'm quite sure the tabloid press will be busy blaming sneaky Johnny Foreigners ganging up on poor plucky Blighty.

I am so sick of this Empire bullshit, it's so degrading. To listen to my sister tell me in all seriousness that the EU have treated Mrs May terribly. Yet when you ask what they've done that's so terrible it's just vague hand waving along the lines of "they didn't give us everything even tho we didn't know what we wanted, but they should have known"

It's just pathetic

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 16th, 2019 at 09:37:26 PM EST
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