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Great news for islamists!
The greens have consistently supported islamists, and the social democrats have delayed legislation so that Sweden is far behind the rest of Europe in dealing with terrorism. Both are blind to Middle Eastern style antisemitism.

BTW, there is no "right" or "extreme right" in Swedish politics. The large conservative party is explicitly in favour of taxes over 50%!

As far as the cordon sanitaire goes, in the south of Sweden it's already gone on the local and regional levels - 25% vote SD here. They are the new or next social democrats, which makes sense as their policies are pretty much a carbon copy of that party in 1965.


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by Number 6 on Sun Jan 27th, 2019 at 01:51:05 PM EST
Sweden: The greens have consistently supported islamists, and the social democrats have delayed legislation so that Sweden is far behind the rest of Europe in dealing with terrorism. Both are blind to Middle Eastern style antisemitism.

I don't follow the political parties in Sweden that closely, find above statement painting a broad view. Is the Green Party inclusive to the Muslim community in Sweden? In addition I find Sweden has made a turn to the right in foreign policy. Blind to Middle Eastern style antisemitism is an odd statement to make.

Israel has a policy to broaden the definition of anti-semitism to include Zionism and criticism of Israel and its treatment of Palestinians in occupied territory. I wonder what you mean by this remark.

Sweden's Green Party grapples with claims it's been infiltrated by Islamists | Times of Israel |
Anti-Semitism Is Not the Issue; Palestine Is
Seattle Jewish Leader Turns Israel and Fear of Anti-Semitism into New Jewish Religion | Tikun Olam |
Terror threat Amsterdam: Mosques will get same police protection as synagogues | Het Parool |

Key words | Israel | Islamophobia | Populism | Geert Wilders | Right-wing | Poland | Hungary | BDS |

    Other funding

    The NRC says Wilders does not appear to have any other foreign funding. Daniel Pipes, director of the neo-conservative think tank Middle East Forum has donated to Wilders in the past but told the NRC last year he was withdrawing his backing following Wilders' `fewer Moroccans' chant and court case.



Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Sun Jan 27th, 2019 at 03:24:10 PM EST
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Thank you. My answer will be a lot more scatter shot and less thoughtful than yours. Think of it as impressionism, especially the references.

In the words of Gad Saad: "in the Middle East, hatred of Jews is built in on the cellular level." (Saad is a Lebanese Sephardi Jew whose family left for Canada in 1975.)

If the "criticism" of Israel is that the country shouldn't exist, then yes, I consider that to be about "Jews", not politics. Antisemitism predates Israel by thousands of years.  In the middle east holocaust denial is the default position in many school textbooks. Middle eastern media has a level of casual antisemitism (not just anti-zionism or whatever) that Europe hasn't seen since the days of ... well, Shakespeare.

Social democratic parties in the UK and Sweden, probably Belgium (possibly elsewhere) have made it their goal that immigrants from the Middle East - the future core voters as the parties have given up on the indigenous middle class - should choose their party by default. (If you don't, Islamist parties will get those votes, as they have already begun to do in Belgium.) This involved playing to these groups by ignoring what would be considered antisemitism if it came from white people on the right.  Can you sing the "Khaybar" song and just be talking about Israel and the 1967 borders? Apparently.

The religious branch of the social democratic party (Socialdemokrater för Tro och Solidaritet) have a long history of shilling for groups connected with the Muslim Brotherhood.

The tax payers money passed through the foreign office (Utrikesdepartementet) to supports a one-state solution: Palestine without Israel.
Other countries have stopped supporting the Palistinean Authority when it gets too vocal it its support for terrorists whose main goal is killing jews. Sweden (The Social Democrats) does not.

Verbal and financial support to various organisations and people: Ship to Gaza (supported by Turkeys APK),  Milli Görus, Turkish Grey Wolves, Hamas, Hezbollah, Swedish Muslims for Peace and Justice, Mahmoud Abbas.

The EU considers Hamas to be a terrorist organisation. The Swedish Social Democrats are not too worried.

At the current rate, Sweden will be the new Lebanon in a generation so the point will be moot.

Right, I'll go back to my own bubble for a few years again, and you can keep yours. Deal? :)

Regarding the supposed turn to the right, one of the main points in the recent agreement is more generous rules for bringing in relatives (or "relatives").

I'll just put one link in English here and put the rest, mostly in Swedish but with my subjective summary, separately.
https:/ledarsidorna.se/2017/09/minority-report-the-unholy-axis-and-swedens-support


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by Number 6 on Mon Jan 28th, 2019 at 11:45:44 AM EST
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https:/www.sydsvenskan.se/2012-04-27/reepalus-sprak-ar-antisemitiskt
(Obama envoy on antisemitism meets with leading social democrat in Malmö, finds his statements antisemitic. Among other things Ilmar Reepalu says he's under attack by "israeli lobby", i.e. "jews run the media".)

http://www.dagen.se/nyheter/fi-politiker-ville-tomma-israel-pa-judar-1.1176061
(Feminist Initiative candidate would like to move all jews out of Israel.)

https:www.expressen.se/debatt/judehatet-i-sverige-har-ursaktats-av-ledande-politiker
(Left wing parliamentarians attend meetings)
https:/www.dagen.se/s-ledamot-poserar-med-karta-dar-israel-inte-existerar-1.303243?paywall=true
(Proud social democratic MP poses with map where Israel has been removed.)

http://fnordspotting.blogspot.com/2014/10/socialdemokrater-for-tro-och.html
(Social democrat in charge of work against antisemitism states Breivik was close to zionists and IS was trained by Mossad.)
http://skma.se/blogg/2015/03/nej-peter-weiderud-socialdemokrater-for-tro-och-solidaritet-tar-inte-al ls-avstand-fran-all-antisemitism

(Swedish islamic group receiving state funding repeatedly invites antisemitic speakers.)
https:/www.ssu.se/ssuaren-jonas-bergstrom-med-pa-ship-to-gaza
(Social democratic youth organisation )
https:/www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/kaplan-umgas-med-erdo-ans-man-i-sverige
(Green party member reports directly to Turkey)
https:
ledarsidorna.se/2018/08/bade-socialdemokraterna-och-miljopartiet-har-uttalad-antisemitism-bl and-fortroendevalda
(Green party has ties to APK, IHH and Hamas)
https:/www.expressen.se/ledare/hur-botas-antisemitism-av-annu-ett-museum
(A third of swedish jews considering leaving the country)
https:/www.expressen.se/ledare/naomi-abramowicz/tala-klarsprak-om-antisemitismen-lofven-
(Greatest threat to jews in sweden is islamists, not nazis)
https:/www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/a/0EREjJ
(Children and teens from the middle east arriving in Sweden have never heard of the Holocaust and consider jews to be evil.)
https:
www.expressen.se/ledare/patrik-kronqvist/miljopartiet-tar-ju-inte-sitt-islamistproblem-pa-al lvar
https:/ledarsidorna.se/2018/10/socialdemokraterna-en-saker-politisk-hamn-for-hamas
(Leading social democrats apologists for Hamas)
https:/ledarsidorna.se/2018/08/socialdemokraterna-har-samma-problem-som-labour-med-antisemiter
(Social democratic parliamentary candidate openly supports Hamas.)
https:/www.varldenidag.se/israelkommentar/wallstrom-forstar-verkligen-inte/reprbo!Brq0tcavZHTXwXW0O UYvqg
(Swedish foreign minister doesn't understand ... a lot of things. Amongst them: she states money paid to Palestinian terrorists goes via the EU and with the approval of Israel. Unesco passes resolution to use only arabic name Temple Mount has no ties to judaism, only western country to vote for this is Sweden.)
https:/uvell.se/2017/12/11/svenska-vansterns-flathet-mot-hatet
(Many of middle eastern origin agree with antisemitic statements.)
https:/www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/world/europe/europes-anti-semitism-comes-out-of-shadows.html
(Left becoming dependent on the middle eastern vote. Jews leaving France. )
https:
ledarsidorna.se/2017/02/statsministern-och-det-muslimska-brodraskapet
(Religious branch increaces influence within social democratic party and has long ties to - ultimately - the Moslem Brotherhood.)
https:/ledarsidorna.se/2018/05/trots-president-abbas-antisemitiska-uttalanden-garanterar-ud-sverige s-lojalitet
(Abbas states jews are responsible for antisemitism, Swedish authorities pledges continued support.)
http://wafa.ps/ar_page.aspx?id=C5SdEza819332749851aC5SdEz
(Sweden will do what it can to prevent EU countries from moving their embassy to Jerusalem.)

PS. Is firebombing a synagogue a reason to deport someone? In Sweden it's a reason not to.
https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Gothenburg_Synagogue_attack
https:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/15/sweden-refuses-deport-palestinian-firebombed-synagogue-f ear


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by Number 6 on Mon Jan 28th, 2019 at 11:46:15 AM EST
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"Aiiieeeee the darkies are coming for our women"

Fuck off.

Oh, and the mainstreaming of anti-muslim rhetoric and the conflation of criticism of Israel with anti-semitism  is directly (and predictably) responsible for the increase in mainstream anti-semitism so well fucking done.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jan 28th, 2019 at 11:53:42 AM EST
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Well said :)

Thank goodness right-wing politics in Israel have lost all faith in the Jewish diaspora in America. So Netanyahu needs to kiss ass of the Evangelicals in the States which empower the Republican candidates. Across the African continent the authoritarian regimes and in "New" Europe, the Likud cozies up to the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland. In the Ukraine the political power of the oligarchs are evenly divided in pro-West and pro-Russian. Therefore Netanyahu is sitting on the fence and won't criticize Putin for the annexation of Crimea (after a people's `vote' of course). Trump's Jews a Shanda.

I don't know what playbook Number 6 is reading from, but his statement couldn't be left unanswered.

Convivencia - diversity of thought and level of enriched learning
The so-called Abrahamic Religions (Judaism, Christianity, & Islam) lived peacefully together for many centuries in Mesopotamia

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Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Mon Jan 28th, 2019 at 01:30:48 PM EST
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I don't have a "playbook" and you don't need to assume my gender.


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by Number 6 on Mon Jan 28th, 2019 at 02:17:05 PM EST
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Fi-politiker ville tömma Israel på judar

Feministiskt initiativs riksdagskandidat ville tömma Israel på judar och låta palestinierna "få leva i fred och åter bygga upp det land som en gång var deras".

Source: Dagen.se [pay wall]

About: Dagen  (http://www.dagen.se) - was   founded   by   the   leader   of   the Pentecostal movement in Sweden in 1945 and published daily. It claims to be a Christian voice in the media noise. Its circulation is 18.400 (year 2006).

The Dutch too have a scourge of fundamental churches going by the description of "christian" and following scriptures or the bible. Recently posted about the statement on gay people and earlier about the Dutch Reformed - part of Trump's inner circle.

FI - like I suspected a splinter group not representative of the general population of Swedes

    Support for Feminist Initiative dwindled, however, and the party only managed to obtain 0.4% of the vote in the 2018 general election. The party lost seven seats in the municipal elections and did not gain any county council seats. In October 2018, Gudrun Schyman announced that she would be stepping down as leader of the party at the next party congress.

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    In July 2018, Feminist Initiative member Oldoz Javidi was strongly criticized in Swedish media for anti-semitic remarks made during a Ship to Gaza voyage. Javidi stated in an interview that the Jews living in Israel should be moved to the USA, a remark that made journalists draw comparisons to deportations during WWII. Javidi left the party following the criticism.

More ...

Knowledge and empathy [understanding - not emotion] is a medicine to heal prejudiced opinion.

PS I will take a closer look @gender-neutrality in writing.

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Mon Jan 28th, 2019 at 03:31:54 PM EST
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You could get a job in Swedish Public Service, except for the swearing!
But seriously, increasing number of people are worried about this. Is "you're a racist" and mockery the only things you have to offer?

I'd offer a humorous quote from Holly, but I doubt you'd accept it in the spirit it's meant.

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by Number 6 on Mon Jan 28th, 2019 at 02:08:51 PM EST
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People who voluntarily conflate "muslims" and "islamists" know exactly what they are doing. They are the enemy of all decent people.

And not worth the effort of engaging with. They need to work it out on their own, and come back changed.


It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Jan 31st, 2019 at 08:20:22 AM EST
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You must realize how difficult it is to de-program a radical.  ;)

De-radicalization versus Deprogramming: Similarities and Differences in Programs to Encourage Desistance

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Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Thu Jan 31st, 2019 at 11:30:32 AM EST
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