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I suspect this isn't true, but I'd like to believe Varadkar and Barnier are just stringing Johnson along.

They know he has to ask for an extension if there's no deal by the 19th, and they also know that if he doesn't, a court or some other proxy will.

And that will be the end of Johnson. There will be a GE, and he will be removed.

So it makes sense to play along to create a pretence of congeniality, and then when the inevitable sticking point is found, to be very sad about the fact that clearly more time is needed.

With Johnson gone the most likely outcome is a very weak BINO or Remain - both of which are far more palatable to the EU than any Tory-organised deal.

Most likely wishful thinking. But wouldn't it be fun if it were true?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Oct 11th, 2019 at 02:32:02 PM EST
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Happy endings. Doncha just love 'em?

But I do think Johnson's cartoon progress is ending with him seriously boxed in on all sides.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing, nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Fri Oct 11th, 2019 at 03:08:07 PM EST
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by Bernard on Fri Oct 11th, 2019 at 03:28:25 PM EST
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bounded rationality. I might have mentioned.

Observers are bound by authoritarian obedience to rules and "norms". HRM BoJo ("Trump") is not.

Let us note here that there are exceedingly few "game theory" rationales in the innerboobs which admit this condition of play (although H. Simon does). Most of the litchitchure "democratized" by innerboob media studiously ignores motive apart from pecuniary interest ("incentive"). I might have mentioned.

Consequently, putative "opposition" to the authoritarian opponent of the day is "normally" ill-equipped to communicate properties of any alternative value ("product") than that vested in a designated "big *man". Transformation of independent variable requires transformation of boundaries, presumed to lie outside the scope of the game objective to which all players are bound.

What is that?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Oct 11th, 2019 at 03:55:48 PM EST
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Obviously, as the theory does not cover the game as currently played, the theory must change if it is to be relevant. This is significant mostly to game theorists. But can game theory move from bounded rationality to unbounded irrationality as easily as Trump and Johnson have, or at all.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 01:56:35 AM EST
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Let's start with a simple principle.

GIVEN, play without rules is not a game, which theory of play best describes the role(s) of players.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 03:06:42 PM EST
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The problem with life is that there are few rules that are not routinely broken. That we all die currently seems to hold true. Some taxes are no longer inevitable - if you have enough money and don't count what you pay the tax lawyer as tax. So 'there will always be death and sales taxes'?

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 03:24:25 PM EST
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I detect a communication problem.

The proposition offered is play.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 04:32:42 PM EST
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Then game theory is irrelevant at the most complex levels.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Oct 14th, 2019 at 03:52:13 AM EST
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As one might expect from Gödel's incompleteness theorem.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Oct 14th, 2019 at 03:59:33 AM EST
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by das monde on Fri Oct 18th, 2019 at 09:28:57 AM EST
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Authoritarians would love for all observers to be bound by authoritarian obedience to rules and norms, but, in practice, that never works. There are dissidents even in the most authoritarian societies, even if they are mostly silenced.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 03:30:12 PM EST
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as I see it, the most likely to deviate from the norms are those at the top who believe that position, wealth and influence places them above the everyday mores of the herd.

Which solidifies into corruption, which breeds resentments which breeds extra repression which breeds revolution.

I think right now the Chinese are conducting an experiment into how successful 1984 type societies can be in sustaining an authoritarian hierarchy. An expanding economy helps but the price being paid is so high that the bills will surely cause an implosion. It's just a matter of when.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 07:00:52 PM EST
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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 11:03:09 PM EST
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