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How do the Liberal Democrats view a second referendum? I know they favor just withdrawing the Article 50 notification, which Corbyn opposes. Some in Labour feel it would be irresponsible to have an early election unless there has first been a second referendum, as that would likely lead to another hung Parliament. But Corbyn has stated that the first order of business of a care taker regime should be organizing an early election. Is Corbyn being tactical here?

Might the compromise between Labour and the Liberal Democrats be that both agree to a second referendum before an early election? Is it feasible to hold either a referendum or an election before spring of 2020? Certainly it would be difficult to hold two elections before Jan 31, 2020. So it would seem necessary to ask for an extension until May or June. This would leave Corbyn as PM for a very long time indeed from the point of view of Swinson.

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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 12th, 2019 at 04:16:28 PM EST
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the problem with a second referendum before an election is that the government get to frame the question. So if TWBJ remains in place, don't expect a sympatheic choice.

Equally, the enabling legislation for a referendum calls for a 6 month campaigning period, whilst that for an election is only a few weeks.

All in all, an election makes the most sense, but the LibDems don't really want one cos Swinson will cease to be an MP

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 10:52:38 AM EST
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The government only gets to frame the question if parliament lets them. If they legislate for a referendum, then they can set both the question, and the legal effects.

(This isn't rocket surgery. NZ almost always does its referenda like this, so the public knows exactly what it is voting for. And its a source of significant disquiet around the upcoming marijuana referendum that they're not doing that, and instead doing it UK style with executive-set wording and no legal effects)

by IdiotSavant on Mon Oct 14th, 2019 at 02:17:23 AM EST
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Yeah but when the majority party members fear the leader of the opposition more than they fear the economic and social collapse of their country, how are they supposed to reach agreement?
by asdf on Mon Oct 14th, 2019 at 02:57:02 PM EST
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You mean the opposition party members?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Oct 14th, 2019 at 03:02:10 PM EST
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Well, actually I meant everybody. It's like Corbyn is assumed to have some sort of super-power that will allow him to destroy the country if he gets to be PM.
by asdf on Mon Oct 14th, 2019 at 10:46:22 PM EST
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