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I have read the "EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill Fact Sheet - Northern Ireland" and find it a somewhat tendentious summary of the main provisions relating to northern Ireland but providing no insight into the actual operation of the more controversial elements of it. I'm not sure if the intent is to elucidate or obscure - my suspicion is very much the former.

I also don't understand how this document calls the HoC's bluff on anything, and especially on on N. Ireland - the major point of difference between Boris' and Theresa's Withdrawal Agreements.

Index of Frank's Diaries

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 22nd, 2019 at 10:45:41 PM EST
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Which version of T. May's "deal"? The bad, bad, BAD one with "bluster" or the one without?



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Tue Oct 22nd, 2019 at 10:48:51 PM EST
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I am aware of only one Withdrawal Agreement negotiated between the May government and the EU. The bluster is an optional extra offered mainly by Boris...

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 22nd, 2019 at 10:53:32 PM EST
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Reality Bites
Asked what constituted a "reasoned request" he said, "I will not venture into a typology on what a reasoned request would be. I would simply state the obvious that a reasoned request is a request based on a reason."
independent.ie | BREAKING: New Brexit offer on table as EU presents Britain with unilateral way out of the backstop
"We were and remain happy to apply the backstop to Northern Ireland only if they want to go back to that," he said.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 01:18:10 AM EST
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... This impasse cannot be allowed to continue. In the UK it is creating and doing damage to faith in politics, while the European Union has a legitimate desire to move on to decisions about its own future. That is why the Government has decided to take further action to seek a consensus across the House of Commons on the right way forward.

The Government's policy has always been and remains to leave the European Union in an orderly way, and without undue delay. The House of Commons has not thus far approved the deal ...

blah blah etc.

T. May, A letter from Prime Minister Theresa May to European Council President Donald Tusk, 5 April. THREE (3) PAGES

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 01:31:46 AM EST
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RECALLING that the Joint Report from the negotiators of the European Union and the United Kingdom Government on progress during phase 1 of negotiations under Article 50 TEU on the United Kingdom's orderly withdrawal from the European Union of 8 December 2017 outlines three different scenarios for protecting North-South cooperation and avoiding a hard border, but that this Protocol is based on the third scenario of maintaining full alignment with those rules of the Union's internal market and the customs union which, now or in the future, support North-South cooperation, the all-island economy and the protection of the 1998 Agreement, to apply unless and until an alternative arrangement implementing another scenario is agreed,


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 02:16:35 AM EST
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EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill Delegated Powers Memorandum, pp 14-15
  • Clause 21 (inserts new section 8C  into the EU (Withdrawal) Act 2018)
  • New section 8C(1) confers a power on a Minister of the Crown in connection with the Ireland/Northern Ireland Protocol in the Withdrawal Agreement New section 8C(6) places a duty on a Minister of the Crown to define the term 'qualifying Northern Ireland goods'
  • A  power to implement the Protocol on  Ireland/Northern Ireland. A duty to define the term 'qualifying Northern Ireland goods'
  • Draft affirmative procedure where a statutory instrument [SI] under new section 8C(1) amends, repeals or revokes primary legislation or retained direct principal EU legislation; [...]

Brochure
EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill Fact Sheet - Northern Ireland
It replaces the ["]backstop["] provisions  in the old Withdrawal Agreement negotiated by the former Prime Minister and rejected by Parliament with a system whereby Northern Ireland remains aligned with EU regulations on goods (including certain laws for VAT on goods).

No tariffs will need to be paid on goods moving from GB to NI, which are not at risk of moving to the EU. Thus the Protocol applies EU tariffs in Northern Ireland except for movements within the single customs territory of the United Kingdom.



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 02:42:51 AM EST
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Still wallpapering I see.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 03:06:21 AM EST
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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 03:08:53 AM EST
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Calm down everybody
by asdf on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 03:13:26 AM EST
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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 05:53:10 AM EST
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Long ago on ET, recommendations for good usage were written into a document called the ETiquette.

Up above there, there's a link to something called the User Guide. Under the heading What are the rules there's a link to The ETiquette.

With your penchant for exhaustively reading legal docs, Cat, I'm sure you've studied this one. But just in case you missed it, here's a brief excerpt:

...on European Tribune, we expect to read thought-through arguments, and expect people to be ready to dig up evidence to support their claims. Doing so won't ensure agreement between opposed sides, but at least people are more likely to take each other seriously. By evidence, we don't mean linkdumps or long quotes from webpages and nothing else -- if you reference something, you are expected to at least point out how you think it is relevant and why you think the source is authoritative.

The main point is "thought-through arguments". Applies to everyone.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing, nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 08:10:14 AM EST
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What's that?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 05:59:57 PM EST
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Oui's comments on OTHER PEOPLES' DIARIES are usually quite respectful.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 01:52:18 PM EST
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