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The reason for my use of an "incantatory" phrase is my perception that the argument for Brexit is gaining ground not for any intrinsic merit, but because even many Remain voters are so fed up with it they just want it done and dusted. It's sad that this should become a winning argument and I have no difficulty with Corbyn frustrating it. But either way it could well drive a Boris victory unless a second referendum provides a means of ending the paralysis. It is also a dreadful precedent for all kinds of fascist policies in the future - "the people are fed up with immigrants taking their jobs"...etc.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Oct 23rd, 2019 at 09:39:24 AM EST
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Based on the observation that Remain Conservatives seem willing to do literally anything except let Corbyn be PM--which makes zero sense because he would be temporary in any case--it seems to me that if there is an election and the choices are Labour/Corbyn or Conservative/Johnson (or LibDem/useless-person-why-don't-they-get-how-third-parties-screw-things-up) then Johnson would win, probably with an actual majority.

If things seem bad now, imagine five years of Johnson running a party with a majority in Parliament.

by asdf on Thu Oct 24th, 2019 at 02:23:48 PM EST
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I still have the feeling that the LibDems are Remain's worst enemies. If they don't manage to coup Corbyn or keep brexit going they end up with nothing to offer. I'd imagine the ex-Tories are more likely to spite-vote Corbyn in(since politics is anyway an extension to Eton games to them).
by generic on Thu Oct 24th, 2019 at 03:12:57 PM EST
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The danger is that a stint in power would make Corbyn look like a potential PM. The entire strategy against him has been to make him look unacceptable, which he is useless at countering. When he's been PM for  a few weeks without the world ending that strategy may fail.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 24th, 2019 at 07:37:08 PM EST
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