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In the average of 21 polls taken over the past two weeks - since the general election was called, the Tories have gained 3% (from 38->41%), Labour 2% (27->29%), the Lib Dems have lost 1% (16->15%) and the Brexit Part has lost 4% (10->6%) compared to the average of 11 polls taken before the election was called. So we have the usual pattern of the larger parties squeezing the smaller parties as the polling date draws near - exacerbated by the Brexit party taking itself out of the running in half the constituencies. So no major swing in momentum - although it is hard to see the Tories not getting an overall majority if they manage to get anything near 40% of the vote. Still 4 weeks to go, and a lot can change, but it is now the Tories election to lose... [Data Source - Wikipedia]

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Nov 19th, 2019 at 07:26:58 PM EST
by Oui on Tue Nov 19th, 2019 at 10:14:35 PM EST
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You can take anything with YouGov off the list. They're notoriously biased, reliably wrong, and - hilariously - produced an "analysis" of yesterday's debate before it had even started.

The tag on this is 6:50pm. The debate started at 8pm. They haven't even bothered to correct this.

Who won the ITV debate?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Nov 20th, 2019 at 02:40:58 PM EST
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seems the tag relates to the creation of the page in preparation, not the insertion of the text.

Not that I'm defending their BS in any way, but I'm not sure they're guilty of a crime here

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 20th, 2019 at 04:15:43 PM EST
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It would be unusual for a CMS to do that. There's no compelling reason - editorial or practical - to create an article before the content is ready.

Obviously not a crime either way, but given the already below-the-barrel ethical standards shown by the right in this campaign, I think skepticism is warranted.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Nov 20th, 2019 at 04:49:41 PM EST
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Just for fun I looked at the page source, and it has:

  "@context": "https:/schema.org",
  "@type": "Article",
  "dateCreated": "2019-11-19T17:50:41.859804+00:00",
  "dateModified": "2019-11-19T17:50:41.859804+00:00",
  "datePublished": "2019-11-19T18:50:20+00:00",
  "image": "
/d18lkz4dllo6v2.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/entry/26441/GE2019%20ITV%20debate-01.jpg",
  "headline": "YouGov snap poll finds viewers split on who won ITV general election debate",

Which if anything is even worse, because it suggests that the article was written at 17:50, then published automatically at 18:50.

I'm taking the random digits on the seconds of the creation time to mean it was a manual event, and the whole number of seconds on the publishing time to mean it was scheduled.

I'm also taking the identical modification time to mean it wasn't modified after the initial upload.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Nov 20th, 2019 at 04:59:21 PM EST
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by generic on Wed Nov 20th, 2019 at 08:40:12 PM EST
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okay, fair point.

Frankly, the whole thing is fucked innit

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 20th, 2019 at 05:02:47 PM EST
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