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Dear citizens of the UK,

sometimes countries go crazy. It happens. We have more than enough experience of that over here. Sometimes countries go down. Ditto. Just as your union is wobbling, we know that our European Union is not eternal, either. It's sad but that's life.

Drink a pint, have a laugh!

I believe 5 is correct but of course it's gonna drag the EU down too.

Schengen is toast!

by epochepoque on Fri Nov 29th, 2019 at 01:05:19 PM EST
"gonna drag the EU down too": I don't know about that.

Apart from overstated UK budget rebates, contribution to EU trade balance with either EU or ROW, and overstated economic impact within UK attributable only to BREXIT jingoism, I wonder. I wonder, because GINI is one of those topics that have left the room for the election against HRM BoJo or the elusive 2nd referendum.

Love or detest GINI: GB is not the "engine" of EU prosperity, however you care to measure that. You are familiar with GINI figures, and Eurostat figures by nation-state have been nearly level for some decades. Which might or might not be and endorsement of endemic poverty across Europe, induced by "neoliberal" or "neocon" national parliaments' policies. It is however an indictment of grossly disproportionate income inequality--matching the most grossly overvalued currency on the planet--hoarded in Britain for generations. That is, UK will secede with "wealth" to be squandered by its gov, not EU gov and EU27.
The Scale of Economic Inequality in the UK

The UK has a wealth GINI coefficient of 73.2%.
The most compelling argument to present "commoners" in the UK is the real, humantiarian one which hardly anyone acknowledges: The EU membership mitigates abject poverty in the UK.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Nov 29th, 2019 at 08:06:49 PM EST
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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Nov 29th, 2019 at 08:13:38 PM EST
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The world bank lists UK GINI index at 34.1, and the CIA factbook as 32.4. Are we talking about different things?

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sat Nov 30th, 2019 at 10:49:30 PM EST
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Possibly the difference is between accumulated wealth and income.

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sat Nov 30th, 2019 at 10:52:07 PM EST
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Yes. wealth GINI, income GINI

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Dec 1st, 2019 at 04:20:08 AM EST
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Gap between rich and poor grows alongside rise in UK's total wealth
"the wealth ladder": Where is planted and what does it lean on?

The incorrect answer is RE. RE is a store of value, money. Wealth is credit.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 6th, 2019 at 05:07:08 AM EST
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Seems like we're getting our own mini revolution in Germany. Olaf Scholz, the establishment candidate in the race for party chair of the SPD, lost against a pair of virtual nobodies from the party left, Saskia Esken and Norbert Walter-Borjans. The latter is known for aggressively pursuing tax evaders by acquiring leaked documents from Switzerland when he was a finance minister.

They plan to renegotiate the coalition agreement with an eye towards exiting the government. It's not fully Corbynesque but a similar direction of travel.

Schengen is toast!

by epochepoque on Sun Dec 1st, 2019 at 09:50:14 AM EST
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So what is the likely shape of the next German government if the SPD move to the left, and the CDU to the right to counter AfD gains?

And what are the implications for German foreign, European, and Brexit policies?

Index of Frank's Diaries

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Dec 1st, 2019 at 10:57:32 AM EST
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CDU don't have to move right (much or yet). They're cozy in the center but programmatically they're quite dried out inside. If the current numbers add up CDU-Green will have a majority.

Foreign policy: new CDU chief wants to be more 'active' - no tools to back it up.

European policy: the fuck anybody knows. Merkel would have to be gone for a long time and people would have wake up and start to learn to think for themselves again.

Brexit policy: no change.

Schengen is toast!

by epochepoque on Sun Dec 1st, 2019 at 12:56:51 PM EST
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One can hope, but I imagine you'd need a similiar public and acrimonious break with the old leadership to pull up from the death spiral.
by generic on Sun Dec 1st, 2019 at 03:32:14 PM EST
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