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This is an interesting historical observation.
n the other hand, the Emirates and KSA paid dearly for allowing the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood take refuge during the Nasser years of Egypt.
(1956-1970, "socialist" rey-geem)

I'm unsure how regional political alliance and Muslim Brotherhood integration with Egypt's local politics was corrupted, shall we say, by Qatar alone in the intervening 40 years. It seems to me that US collaboration with and hostility toward Nasser's successors which delegitimized or "radicalized" Muslim Brotherhood was required to foment conditions for regional punitive action between Muslim sects (codename: "Arab Spring").

Would you elaborate a bit more about the roles of Sadat and Mubarack in this context?

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by Cat on Sun Mar 3rd, 2019 at 10:45:10 PM EST
The timeline I got from Destroying Yemen was that the MB finally fell out with Nasser over his land reform plans in an for Nasser rather uncharacteristically bloody way, and got a place to be terrible in the KSA. That ended with:
1979 Grand Mosque seizure - Wikipedia
The Grand Mosque seizure[7] occurred during November and December 1979 when insurgents calling for the overthrow of the House of Saud took over Masjid al-Haram in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. The insurgents declared that the Mahdi (the "redeemer of Islam") had arrived in the form of one of their leaders - Mohammed Abdullah al-Qahtani - and called on Muslims to obey him. For nearly two weeks Saudi Special Forces, assisted by Pakistani and French commandos,[8] fought battles to reclaim the compound.[9]

After that Qatar became their main sponsor.

I really need to get back to the Curtis book about the UK and radical Islam but I fear I'll have to clean up my desk for this. I'm sure I left it somewhere around here.

by generic on Mon Mar 4th, 2019 at 12:43:10 PM EST
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Get back to that Curtis book!
iirc, you've post only one or two insights from this source.

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by Cat on Mon Mar 4th, 2019 at 05:13:26 PM EST
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Not so long ago I wrote about the 1979 siege ...

Makkah Siege of 1979 - Turning Point in Saudi Arabia

Pleasantly surprised by a four parts documentary on the history of the Middle East on Dutch television. Instead of the usual political propaganda, some excellent Arabists to narrate the story of Abdul Nasser from the Suez Crisis of 1956 - the War with Israel in 1967 up to the Islamic Revolution in Iran (1979).

During the secular leadership of Nasser in Egypt during the 1950s, his effort to create equality for the masses through a Arab socialism with land reform got him much praise. Nasser gave people hope of independence from foreign influence. President Dwight Eisenhower played an important role during the Suez Crisis to make clear to the British and French that the era of their empires ended after World War II.

Suez Canal Crisis documentary

Look for some films about Nasser who fought for a secular state of Egypt. The fundametalists attempted a number of assassinations. The wel educated Egyptians from the MB were thrown out and the Arab tribes in de desert welcomed these groups. Until an alien form of Jihad brought domestic terror to the peninsula ...

From another diary ...

Developments Arab Spring Egypt's Revolt Explained (Aug. 18, 2013)

CIA boosted MB in Egypt during the cold war years to break the influence of the Soviet Union. The MB were suppressed under Nasser (video) and left Egypt for Qatar, UAE and Saudi Arabia. Only in Qatar is the MB still welcome, the MB is outlawed in UAE and similarly in Saudi Arabia. The MB turned out to be a subversive militant organisation. Saudi Arabia, the guardian of the three sanctuaries of Islamic faith, is based on the pure Islamic belief of Wahhabism. Apparently Safalism is tolerated and funded/supported to spread the Islamic faith through mosques across the globe. The foreign preachers in Saudi funded Western mosques are homophobic, anti-Israel and against western culture. It's the source for Muslim youth traveling to Chechnya, Yemen and Pakistan for jihad.



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by Oui on Mon Mar 4th, 2019 at 03:25:26 PM EST
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Thank you. I now understand how I misread the excerpt that I pulled from this post (above). Your entry, "Developments Arab Spring Egypt's Revolt Explained (Aug. 18, 2013)", corrects my reading.
CIA boosted MB in Egypt during the cold war years* to break the influence of the Soviet Union. The MB were suppressed under Nasser (video) and left Egypt for Qatar, UAE and Saudi Arabia.
Your entry, "Makkah Siege of 1979 - Turning Point in Saudi Arabia [2018]", pulls some more detail from the post-Nasser period , 1979 to "the early 1990s", into the schism within the KSA and between Egypt and the Gulf states. From the premises of this narrative flows much of my westworld glossary of radical, sectarian violence --or class struggle-- from "mostly Muslim countries" to date. (the exaggerated fixation of some analysts on the "Suez" incident, notwithstanding.) Fair enough, to the victors &tc.

I also understand, I will need to study a broader range of sources to apprehend the roles of Sadat and Mubarak --both seemingly supported by Egypt's military-- and their violent falls from (conditional) grace of NATO in this context. What compels my curiosity is the question, How did MB-in-exile accumulate sufficient popular support in Egypt to post candidate Morsi's election?
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* sliding rule of US "Cold War", either Tehran 1943-1991 or Potsdam 1945 to present or OSS 1941 to present

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by Cat on Mon Mar 4th, 2019 at 05:06:50 PM EST
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".. to apprehend the roles of Sadat and Mubarak --both seemingly supported by Egypt's military .."

Egypt's military has ownership of approx.. 20% of the country's GDP.

Egypt's 'Military Inc' expands its control of the economy

I lived through the 1960s and 1970s partly in the US and later in Europe. The effects of the 1973 oil boycott and Palestinian terror of passenger plane hijacking is set clear in my mind. The UK and The Netherlands did the engineering for major expansion of Aramco's investment in its oil industry. Major investment in refineries and oil transport pipelines. The capacity to deliver oil was increased from 3 mln to 10 mnl barrels per day. In the early seventies there was a terror attack on a schoolbus killing dozens of children of American expats. Little to no coverage was ever seen in the media.

I see president Sadat as a hero for his overture to Israel for peace, visiting Jerusalem and giving a speech in the Knesset. The terror of the Muslim Brotherhood cut his life short. Mubarak was wounded in the attack. In the aftermath of the assassination, there was once again a crackdown on the terror groups. A mastermind was Al Zawahiri ...

Sadat's assassination plotter remains unrepentant

There can be no surprise that two masterminds of Islamic Jihad met and joined forces to found "The Base"or "Al Qaeda". The old colonial powers and the modern colonial ruler thru capitalism misread the Middle East over more than seventy years and allowed the revolutionary forces of these terror groups to grow. The legacy of John Foster Dulles, Sir Anthony Eden and Shimon Peres.

    "The third point the Secretary said he wished to stress was our belief that the key to any constructive program in the area involved the winning away of the Saudi Arabians from their present alignment with Egypt. We believed that it might be possible to win King Saud away from Nasser, and Saud could give important anti-Communist leadership in the Arab world (CENTO), which was important. However, we believed the winning away of the Saudis from Egypt depended on the UK reaching an accommodation with the Saudis on Buraimi."

Anglo-American Relations in the Persian Gulf Region, 1950-1956

Eisenhower and Suez: an appraisal of presidential leadership

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by Oui on Mon Mar 4th, 2019 at 09:00:04 PM EST
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RESHAPING THE MIDDLE EAST: WHY THE WEST SHOULD STOP ITS INTERVENTIONS (1) and (2), Written by Elijah J. Magnier
When we look at recent history (the last four decades since the PLO was expelled from Lebanon), the list is cataclysmic. We find the formation of Hezbollah, Hamas, al-Qaeda, ISIS, the ousting of the Taliban regime, Saddam Hussein, Moammar Ghedaffi, the attempt to topple the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, the attempt to divide Iraq, and the war on Yemen. The list bears witness to the unbelievable resources brought to bear by the US, Israel, Europe and their Middle Eastern allies in attempts at "regime change", and their total failure at creating a "new Middle East". ...
Flag comes down on U.S. Palestinian mission in Jerusalem

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Syrian Civil War - Endgame In Idlib? [Update]

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by Cat on Tue Mar 5th, 2019 at 01:45:29 AM EST
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the 1973 oil boycott

Refuse to purchase (boycott) is not the same action as refuse to sell.
OPEC Oil Embargo, Its Causes, and the Effects of the Crisis

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by Cat on Tue Mar 5th, 2019 at 01:42:55 PM EST
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Eisenstat, Sadat, Carter, and Hitler
quite the matrix for an investigation of post-Nasser political intrigues

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by Cat on Wed Mar 13th, 2019 at 12:16:47 AM EST
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