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I organise a tennis tournament every week. Its 12 people, mixed doubles, different permutations every 40 minutes. When I was away it was difficult to find anyone willing to organise it in my absence. People weren't even prepared to organise buying balls or deciding permutations.

I used to get a lot of stick that so and so won't play with so and so, or somebody else isn't trying. Some don't like particular courts, others complained someone else had taken their place when they were away. Some are alleged to call balls out when they're in and others are alleged to cheat on scoring.

We are talking grown adults here. Average age 60+. There is no prize for winning.

After several bust ups and flaming rows I just started to lay down the law. If you didn't like it, you didn't have to play. There hasn't been a problem since. People have even volunteered to run it while I am away.

So much for egalitarian, participative, decision making. I do a draw, and then I cheat to try to keep the parings as even as possible. No one has complained since. Dictatorship rools

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Sep 15th, 2019 at 06:54:15 PM EST
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Also, when you get old, your eldest son will naturally fall into place as the subsequent leader. That is the way of humans.
by asdf on Sun Sep 15th, 2019 at 07:24:53 PM EST
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no, it's a bit more Oedipal than that. He would kill me first...:-)

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Sep 15th, 2019 at 08:07:56 PM EST
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If you have an eldest son. If not, you're not genetically predisposed for leadership.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 08:22:03 AM EST
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So you are saying my eldest son has retro-actively genetically engineered me for leadership? He would like that. Mind you it took considerable skills of leadership to get him to do anything in his early teens... but I maintain those skills were acquired through bitter experience.

If you have to have a driving licence to drive a car, how much more important is it to have a parenting licence to become a parent? The skills required are several orders of magnitude greater, and the consequences for getting it wrong so much more serious.

Mind you it is hard for me not to take a little vicarious pleasure as he struggles with parenthood. I find the duties of grandparenthood a breeze by comparison. I think some kids are genetically predisposed to force their parents to develop great leadership skills, and he is coming along nicely...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 08:51:22 AM EST
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My meaning was that the genetic make-up of natural-born leaders determines the procreation of eldest sons. It's the default.

Think of all those kings who couldn't sire a son and heir. They were all pussies, especially Henry VIII who blamed his wives.

(Disclaimer: IANAN-BL but I'm not blaming anyone).

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:30:40 AM EST
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The nature joke is that natural born leaders (say, in a wolf-pack) tend to choose more submissive females for procreation - so the next pack is again a fine mix of alphas, betas, omegas. (Youtube)
by das monde on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 12:54:25 PM EST
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The more sophisticated, human joke is on you (but you already knew that).

Anyway, what are you doing on the profoundly unnatural internet, instead of being out clubbing mammoths, with the rest of the rightwing leadership wannabes?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 06:16:11 AM EST
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Massive social media addictions show that the internet satisfies very natural human wishes, anticipations. Thank you for all the niggardly rejections! Here is better than on Tinder!

Returning to the subject:

"Man's nature, so to speak, is a perpetual factory of idols." (John Calvin, 1559)

by das monde on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 09:30:02 AM EST
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Natural's not in it

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 10:57:38 AM EST
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This thread amply demonstrates ET's need for emoji. Our rating system simply fails before the task.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 02:55:14 PM EST
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[smiley face]
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 10:45:51 AM EST
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Solid gold toilet stolen from Winston Churchill's birthplace
"after previously being shown to appreciative audiences at the Guggenheim Museum in New York"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 12:09:33 AM EST
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Said birthplace being Blenheim Palace, built by John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough, 1st Prince of Mindelheim, 1st Count of Nellenburg, Prince of the Holy Roman Empire, KG, PC, celebrated military leader of England against... oh, the Continent.

Further proof, if proof were necessary, of the inherent superiority of aristocratic lineage. Don't try to fight it.

Fortunately, (your link):

The artist intended the golden toilet to be a pointed satire about excessive wealth. Cattelan has previously said: "Whatever you eat, a $200 lunch or a $2 hot dog, the results are the same, toilet-wise."

Next thing they'll be telling us that Her Majesty the Queen shits.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 08:15:46 AM EST
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Horses sweat, gentlemen perspire, ladies glow.
Horses shit, gentlemen defecate, ladies relieve themselves...

Get it right man!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 08:54:16 AM EST
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Her Majesty the Queen obtains the same result, toilet-wise.

Is that better?

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:19:08 AM EST
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As Cat might say, you are making assumptions not in evidence...
Apparently Diana used colonic irrigation but then she was de-HRMed...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25:00 AM EST
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If you can't make assumptions not in evidence, where's the fun?

Diana was married to Charlie, and can therefore be excused for using colonic irrigation and indeed whatever else.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:38:30 AM EST
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It would be more fun if you could produce the evidence...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 01:26:37 PM EST
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In times gone by, eg in the reign of Louis XIV, the Gentleman of the Bedchamber in charge of the royal stool displayed the result to the Court. Those were the days.

Perhaps now the UK is going to break free of its chains...

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 04:44:50 PM EST
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is going rapidly down hill, or should I say down stream. I had not realized the UK has been bound by its toilet chains. As Dr. Freud might have said we are becoming too anally fixated. As Boris (the Incredible Hulk) bestrides the world stage striking fear in the hearts of mere mortals, let us hope that it is not the UK that is going down a golden toilet...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 05:16:45 PM EST
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As a lawyer would say when objecting to a question suborning testimony from a witness,

assumes facts not in evidence (p 36)

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 02:06:45 PM EST
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The CIA apparently obtained evidence on Brezhnev by tapping the plumbing during a conference, and diagnosed the liver disease that eventually killed him. In an unpublished (in fact unfinished) novel of mine, Putin travels with a portaloo in order to keep his medical secrets.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 06:44:46 AM EST
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Actually that was Gorbachev.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 03:48:27 PM EST
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Why don't you publish it in instalments here? We might even inspire you to finish it!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 04:05:29 PM EST
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Conceptual art at its finest! For the artist the golden toilet was a 'found object'.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 02:57:37 PM EST
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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 03:08:08 PM EST
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More of a foundation object, if you ask me, although I wouldn't say no if I found it in my back garden...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 04:10:21 PM EST
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