Rerversing the dominant submissive British Irish polarity | 83 comments (83 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Dictatorship rools (none / 1)

Also, when you get old, your eldest son will naturally fall into place as the subsequent leader. That is the way of humans.

by asdf on Sun Sep 15th, 2019 at 07:24:53 PM EST
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Oedipus rex (none / 1)

no, it's a bit more Oedipal than that. He would kill me first...:-)

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Sep 15th, 2019 at 08:07:56 PM EST
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Re: Oedipus rex (none / 1)

If you have an eldest son. If not, you're not genetically predisposed for leadership.

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by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 08:22:03 AM EST
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Re: Oedipus rex (none / 1)

So you are saying my eldest son has retro-actively genetically engineered me for leadership? He would like that. Mind you it took considerable skills of leadership to get him to do anything in his early teens... but I maintain those skills were acquired through bitter experience.

If you have to have a driving licence to drive a car, how much more important is it to have a parenting licence to become a parent? The skills required are several orders of magnitude greater, and the consequences for getting it wrong so much more serious.

Mind you it is hard for me not to take a little vicarious pleasure as he struggles with parenthood. I find the duties of grandparenthood a breeze by comparison. I think some kids are genetically predisposed to force their parents to develop great leadership skills, and he is coming along nicely...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 08:51:22 AM EST
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Re: Oedipus rex (none / 0)

My meaning was that the genetic make-up of natural-born leaders determines the procreation of eldest sons. It's the default.

Think of all those kings who couldn't sire a son and heir. They were all pussies, especially Henry VIII who blamed his wives.

(Disclaimer: IANAN-BL but I'm not blaming anyone).

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Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
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by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:30:40 AM EST
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Re: Oedipus rex (none / 0)

The nature joke is that natural born leaders (say, in a wolf-pack) tend to choose more submissive females for procreation - so the next pack is again a fine mix of alphas, betas, omegas. (Youtube)

by das monde on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 12:54:25 PM EST
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Re: Oedipus rex (4.00 / 2)

The more sophisticated, human joke is on you (but you already knew that).

Anyway, what are you doing on the profoundly unnatural internet, instead of being out clubbing mammoths, with the rest of the rightwing leadership wannabes?

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 06:16:11 AM EST
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Re: Oedipus rex (none / 1)

Massive social media addictions show that the internet satisfies very natural human wishes, anticipations. Thank you for all the niggardly rejections! Here is better than on Tinder!

Returning to the subject:

"Man's nature, so to speak, is a perpetual factory of idols." (John Calvin, 1559)

by das monde on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 09:30:02 AM EST
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Re: Oedipus rex (none / 0)

Natural's not in it

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 10:57:38 AM EST
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Re: Oedipus rex (none / 1)

This thread amply demonstrates ET's need for emoji. Our rating system simply fails before the task.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 02:55:14 PM EST
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Re: Oedipus rex (none / 0)

[smiley face]

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 10:45:51 AM EST
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Re: Dictatorship rools (none / 0)

Solid gold toilet stolen from Winston Churchill's birthplace
"after previously being shown to appreciative audiences at the Guggenheim Museum in New York"

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by Cat on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 12:09:33 AM EST
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Re: Dictatorship rools (4.00 / 2)

Said birthplace being Blenheim Palace, built by John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough, 1st Prince of Mindelheim, 1st Count of Nellenburg, Prince of the Holy Roman Empire, KG, PC, celebrated military leader of England against... oh, the Continent.

Further proof, if proof were necessary, of the inherent superiority of aristocratic lineage. Don't try to fight it.

Fortunately, (your link):

The artist intended the golden toilet to be a pointed satire about excessive wealth. Cattelan has previously said: "Whatever you eat, a $200 lunch or a $2 hot dog, the results are the same, toilet-wise."

Next thing they'll be telling us that Her Majesty the Queen shits.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 08:15:46 AM EST
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Get it right man! (none / 1)

Horses sweat, gentlemen perspire, ladies glow.
Horses shit, gentlemen defecate, ladies relieve themselves...

Get it right man!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 08:54:16 AM EST
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Re: Get it right man! (4.00 / 2)

Her Majesty the Queen obtains the same result, toilet-wise.

Is that better?

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Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
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by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:19:08 AM EST
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Re: Get it right man! (none / 0)

As Cat might say, you are making assumptions not in evidence...
Apparently Diana used colonic irrigation but then she was de-HRMed...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25:00 AM EST
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Re: Get it right man! (4.00 / 2)

If you can't make assumptions not in evidence, where's the fun?

Diana was married to Charlie, and can therefore be excused for using colonic irrigation and indeed whatever else.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:38:30 AM EST
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stools (none / 1)

It would be more fun if you could produce the evidence...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 01:26:37 PM EST
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Re: stools (4.00 / 3)

In times gone by, eg in the reign of Louis XIV, the Gentleman of the Bedchamber in charge of the royal stool displayed the result to the Court. Those were the days.

Perhaps now the UK is going to break free of its chains...

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 04:44:50 PM EST
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This thread (4.00 / 2)

is going rapidly down hill, or should I say down stream. I had not realized the UK has been bound by its toilet chains. As Dr. Freud might have said we are becoming too anally fixated. As Boris (the Incredible Hulk) bestrides the world stage striking fear in the hearts of mere mortals, let us hope that it is not the UK that is going down a golden toilet...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 05:16:45 PM EST
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Re: Get it right man! (none / 1)

As a lawyer would say when objecting to a question suborning testimony from a witness,

assumes facts not in evidence (p 36)

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by Cat on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 02:06:45 PM EST
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Re: Get it right man! (4.00 / 3)

The CIA apparently obtained evidence on Brezhnev by tapping the plumbing during a conference, and diagnosed the liver disease that eventually killed him. In an unpublished (in fact unfinished) novel of mine, Putin travels with a portaloo in order to keep his medical secrets.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 06:44:46 AM EST
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Re: Get it right man! (none / 1)

Actually that was Gorbachev.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 03:48:27 PM EST
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Re: Get it right man! (none / 0)

Why don't you publish it in instalments here? We might even inspire you to finish it!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 04:05:29 PM EST
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Re: Dictatorship rools (none / 1)

Conceptual art at its finest! For the artist the golden toilet was a 'found object'.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 02:57:37 PM EST
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< wipes tears > (none / 0)

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