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So you are saying my eldest son has retro-actively genetically engineered me for leadership? He would like that. Mind you it took considerable skills of leadership to get him to do anything in his early teens... but I maintain those skills were acquired through bitter experience.

If you have to have a driving licence to drive a car, how much more important is it to have a parenting licence to become a parent? The skills required are several orders of magnitude greater, and the consequences for getting it wrong so much more serious.

Mind you it is hard for me not to take a little vicarious pleasure as he struggles with parenthood. I find the duties of grandparenthood a breeze by comparison. I think some kids are genetically predisposed to force their parents to develop great leadership skills, and he is coming along nicely...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 08:51:22 AM EST
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My meaning was that the genetic make-up of natural-born leaders determines the procreation of eldest sons. It's the default.

Think of all those kings who couldn't sire a son and heir. They were all pussies, especially Henry VIII who blamed his wives.

(Disclaimer: IANAN-BL but I'm not blaming anyone).

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:30:40 AM EST
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The nature joke is that natural born leaders (say, in a wolf-pack) tend to choose more submissive females for procreation - so the next pack is again a fine mix of alphas, betas, omegas. (Youtube)
by das monde on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 12:54:25 PM EST
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The more sophisticated, human joke is on you (but you already knew that).

Anyway, what are you doing on the profoundly unnatural internet, instead of being out clubbing mammoths, with the rest of the rightwing leadership wannabes?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 06:16:11 AM EST
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Massive social media addictions show that the internet satisfies very natural human wishes, anticipations. Thank you for all the niggardly rejections! Here is better than on Tinder!

Returning to the subject:

"Man's nature, so to speak, is a perpetual factory of idols." (John Calvin, 1559)

by das monde on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 09:30:02 AM EST
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Natural's not in it

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 10:57:38 AM EST
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This thread amply demonstrates ET's need for emoji. Our rating system simply fails before the task.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2019 at 02:55:14 PM EST
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[smiley face]
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 10:45:51 AM EST
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