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Maybe, maybe not. But I think the mood music is different this time. Lst time the EU gave us 6 months and warned us not to waste our time getting our act together. 6 wasted months later, I would not be the least bit surprised if they didn't more or less tell us to fuck off and not come back til we've grwon up

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 04:38:23 PM EST
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My ten bucks USD sez extension.
by asdf on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 04:40:24 PM EST
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I would agree. One thing though: Boris has to ask for an extension, as mandated by the law voted by the HoC. The default outcome, if Boris doesn't move, is still the UK out without a deal at All Hallows eve.

The EU can, and has been, very creative in  kicking the can down the road, but even then, it cannot last forever.

by Bernard on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 05:25:44 PM EST
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Johnson will send the letter, that I do not doubt, if only because the yella sheets scream he won't.

He's a contrary bastid, and he can count on parliament not making the best of the time their granted.

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by Cat on Tue Sep 17th, 2019 at 05:59:23 PM EST
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parliament not making the best of the time their granted.

You mean like the last time an A50 extension was agreed upon by the EU Council, Donald Tusk pleaded with Britain: "don't waste this time", and then the British Parliament immediately went into a ten-day recess?

Yes, I remember that one: you could hear the collective "What the f*ck?" all over Europe.

by Bernard on Wed Sep 18th, 2019 at 05:50:36 PM EST
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I think the EU Council will have to ask themselves the question: Have things moved on since we last granted an extension?

The answer is obviously subjective - Boris is hardly an improvement on Theresa - but at least the UK government is showing an urgency to get this matter resolved.

My own view is that Boris is desperate to Brexit on 31st. October because he senses the initiative slipping away from Brexiteers and if he doesn't achieve Brexit then he is opening the door to a second referendum and a reversal of the first.

So the very act of extension could make Remain a good bit more likely, and since this is still the ideal outcome from an EU Council perspective they will not wish to spurn the opportunity especially as it will really annoy the Brexiteers.

But the UK Parliament has to find a way to enforce its will first...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Sep 18th, 2019 at 06:48:21 PM EST
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Boris is hardly an improvement on Theresa

Seems to me Boris is considerably worse than May. She negotiated in good faith, and came up with a compromise proposal that the EU was ok with, and tried three times to get it through an unruly, uncooperative, and illogical parliament. Boris is not even pretending to negotiate, has no clue about what sort of compromise might work, and has zero intention of getting anything through parliament.

The only question about BoJo is the exact proportion of privilege, cluelessness, and bluster in his character.

by asdf on Wed Sep 18th, 2019 at 11:29:33 PM EST
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Based on their performance up to that point, having a 10-day session would have been a complete waste of time. So they interpreted his comment to mean they should have a holiday.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Sep 18th, 2019 at 07:40:36 PM EST
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