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walp, The party conferences are on--as predicted by Voldemort and his dotty puppet Regina-- despite rebellion against prorogation ending 14 Oct 2019 until further notice. Jo Maugham QC has ventured Tue, 24 Sep.

Labour is now, 22-25 Sep, while SCOTUK is "poised to rule against Boris Johnson, according to the Guardian. First draw may well be fortunate for Labour to sweep the crazy bits under the rug before parliament returns to session and super critical constitutional crisis management--such as CRAFTING party platform for the poll as yet scheduled on or before expiry of the latest "A.50(3) extension period," 11.00pm on 31 January 2020.

Corbyn on collision course with Labour members over Brexit, according to Guardian

Before a crucial vote on Monday on whether the party should explicitly back remain in any election, Labour's autumn conference descended into factional rows over its Brexit policy, with rebellious MPs privately threatening another leadership challenge.

Corbyn moved to stamp his authority on Labour's Brexit position by proposing a delay to deciding how the party should campaign at a second referendum [?].

Mind the pronouns
When asked if it was in Britain's long-term interests to remain in the EU, the Labour leader suggested a Labour Brexit deal could be preferable in some circumstances: "It depends on the agreement you have with the European Union outside."

The new position caused a fresh revolt among several shadow ministers and pro-remain activists, adding to the febrile mood at the Brighton conference following an abortive attempt by Jon Lansman, the Momentum chair, to abolish Tom Watson's job as deputy leader and the resignation of Corbyn's key policy aide, Andrew Fisher.

Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary, also made clear her unhappiness with the position, saying Labour risked getting stuck in a "crusher" between leave and remain with the "walls coming in" unless it picks a side before an election. She said a new direction in favour of remain needed to be decided by activists at this conference, not in a future one after an election.
I've no idea whether UK law or "convention" would accommodate a four-day session with 5-day recess for the minority "government" conference. If no, parliament will have recovered 12 days nearly lost to MPs seeking "a deal" because of perfidious prorogation. Give us a clue.

The Conservative Party ho-down is scheduled 29 Sep-3 Oct, and its schedule of events for 100 or so conniving bastids is rich with swag and public frauds.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 03:24:31 AM EST
Europe switched to 12-hour clock or is that a S. Bannon tell?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 03:35:13 AM EST
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Britain to create £1 bln fund for clean energy technology
The Ayrton Fund, named after British physicist and suffragette Hertha Ayrton, will consist of aid money for British and foreign scientists and engineers to develop new clean energy technology in partnership with developing countries.

"If we get this right, future generations will look back on climate change as a problem that we solved by determined global action and the prowess of technology," Johnson said in a statement ahead of his visit to New York.

an angle to everything, eh.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 08:54:22 AM EST
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theres a lot of clean technology available, little of which the UK is implementing.

The tories have kept fuel duty static since they came in, while removing all start up subisides for green energy schemes. Even electric cars only form 0.2% of UK vehicles, which given the congestion in major cities is criminal negligence. In Norway it's nearly 7%

Boris is a bullshitter. Nothing he says can be taken seriously unless it is likely to be flattering and/or excessively profitable to him or his friends.

Like Trump, he lies; not because he is cornered and feels he has to but because lies are his superpower. Without them, he is just another gasbag

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 06:51:50 PM EST
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I do have to wonder, idly, if HRM's tenure is indicative of HRM's secret ahhh political agenda. Lock 'n' load Tories come hell or high water.

Is it "convention," act of parliament, or "absolute and judicially unchallengeable power to refuse ... assent to a [Retirement, Ma'am or Term Limit] Bill" that keeps HRM on the throne rather than abdicate to HRM's heir apparent? landssakes.

Edward VIII quit. Juan Carlos I quit. Akihito just quit.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 09:52:01 AM EST
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I don't think HRM ever quite trusted Bonny Prince Charlie to be up to the job and so clung on in the hope the succession might pass him by and go straight to Prince William. She may also have wished to avoid the fate of the Queen Mother reduced to a life of dressing up, the odd tipple, and boring parties. Given she has almost zero discretionary power, I don't know if it matters an awful lot which century she lives in. She adds a veneer of respectability to the truly tawdry business of UK government and the appearance of constitutionality to the unconstitutional. Best to create a real elected Head of State role with real powers.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 10:40:21 AM EST
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I would point out an advantage of having a separate, non-administrative monarch. In Britain, and many other countries, there is a PM and a queen (or president), while in the US there is only a president.

That means that two important functions of national leadership can be separated in most countries. There is the pomp and circumstance part of government, with parades and fancy dress balls and photo ops and meetings with movie stars, and there is the technical working part of government, with boring committee meetings and complex behind-the-scenes policy decisionmaking. Having the Queen and her entourage on the front page of the tabloids is good, because it allows the PM to work* on actually running the government. In the US, the two jobs are combined, and the POTUS has to alternate between public relations and administration.

*Certain current PMs excluded.

by asdf on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 02:24:51 PM EST
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"He's doing our work for us, in a certain respect," said the speaker of the House.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 05:49:42 PM EST
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I think she agreed, not because boris pulled the wool oer her eyes (I'm quite sure she knew he was lying) but because Andrew was getting inconvenient headlines and a constitutional scandal was likely to push him off the front pages. She has her own game planners with far more experience than Dominic Cummings. And her scheme worked perfectly.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 06:55:05 PM EST
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That's more like it.

She wasn't born yesterday.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 07:03:55 PM EST
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Britain's Labour votes in favor of Corbyn's Brexit [WIDE] stance

backing his bid to hold an election and then decide whether to campaign to remain in or leave the European Union in a new referendum. In a show of hands, Labour voted in favor of Corbyn's stance.
Bid to FORCE Britain's Labour to immediately back remaining in EU fails
In a show of hands, members at the party's annual conference voted against a motion brought by EU supporters to force the party to adopt a so-called "remain" position now before an election and possible second referendum.
Dave 2012
"Clearly all futures for Britain are imaginable. We are in charge of own destiny, we can make our own choices. I believe the choice we should make is to stay in the European Union, to be members of the single market, to maximise our impact in Europe, but where we are unhappy with parts of the relationship we shouldn't be frightened of standing up and saying so."

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 07:33:14 PM EST
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Brexit: Labour delegates back Corbyn and reject plan to commit now to remain - as it happened

Rolling coverage of the Labour conference in Brighton
  • Corbyn's Brexit victory in Labour conference vote - Snap analysis
  • McDonnell says Labour would introduce 32-hour working week
  • How the Labour plan to move to 32-hour working week might work
  • McDonnell says Labour would expand public services available for free
chumps. They must have SECURED a fantastic group rate for the Tory conference.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 08:53:51 PM EST
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UK's Labour Party backs leader; to stay neutral on Brexit

The series of three votes leaves the party's position somewhat ambiguous, reflecting the fact that the membership in general prefers to stay in the EU while Corbyn and some in his inner circle prefer not to take a CLEAR stance.

If unchanged, it means that the party would not take an active "remain" or "leave" position if there is another referendum on the question of EU membership, and would seek to remain neutral in a national election.
Their complicated scenario calls for the party to win an election, take power, negotiate a new deal with the EU, schedule a referendum on whether to endorse the new deal or remain in the EU, then hold a special party conference to determine the party's position on the matter.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Sep 23rd, 2019 at 09:00:34 PM EST
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I assume that is just a restatement of the letter? Would be silly if you promise to negotiate a deal and then campaign against it from the outset.
by generic on Tue Sep 24th, 2019 at 07:30:04 AM EST
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What letter?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Sep 24th, 2019 at 12:15:41 PM EST
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by generic on Tue Sep 24th, 2019 at 04:08:18 PM EST
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"purdah rules"?
wtf. I'm not thinned-skinned, but that idiom epitomizes just how atavistic and crass post-colonial British culture is.

Second, under what rock was Corbyn hiding in '15 that he needed to solict government advice? "While it's likely the issue will be contested in courts ...":omfg. "The government remains in office but there are conventional  constraints on what it can do during that period" when parliament is dissolved.(Miller (Appellant) v. Prime Minister. 24.09.2019)

Third, what is his "deal"? He doesn't mention. Where is his new, mo' better than Boris "non-paper" deal with the EU he knows will rally the plebs to PV and the MPs to NCV with "alternative arrangements" that satisfy EU customs regulation?

Y'all have lost the plot.

The end of "progress"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 at 02:59:21 AM EST
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