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MPs back move to allow bill to block no-deal Brexit by majority of 27

MPs have backed the motion to allow a debate on a bill tomorrow that would prevent a no-deal Brexit on 31 October by 328 votes to 301 - a majority of 27.




"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 at 09:26:50 PM EST
Now just prevent an election before an extension is requested and granted.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 at 09:28:21 PM EST
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If Boris tables a motion under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, he will only get the required 2/3 majority for it if there is certainty of an extension being requested.

Last wizard wheeze, he might claim he has lost the confidence of the HOC and start running the 14-day clock. It looks as if enough determination has been shown for a caretaker government to be formed in that case.

Boris took a beating yesterday.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Wed Sep 4th, 2019 at 06:06:59 AM EST
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Boris Johnson announced he will seek to trigger a snap election after 21 Conservative MPs rebelled during a crunch vote.

MPs voted in favour of allowing a cross-party alliance to take control of the Commons agenda on Wednesday in a bid to block a no-deal Brexit on 31 October by 328 votes to 301.

Analysis of the Commons division list showed 21 Tories rebelled to support the motion on Tuesday night.

The government has said the whip will be withdrawn from all of those who rebelled.

Shortly after the results were announced, the prime minister said he would table a motion under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act.



Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Wed Sep 4th, 2019 at 06:01:10 AM EST
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Then Parliament had better get busy finding a new PM. It is pretty clear that no legal mandate that has to be carried out by Boris can be trusted. Why waste precious time proving that thesis?

Do I take it correctly that the vote Tuesday and the tabling by Boris under the Fixed Term Act means that the HOC could select a new PM any time they can muster a majority to do so?

And what is happening with the three court cases contesting prorogation? I see nothing in the papers.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Sep 4th, 2019 at 07:08:11 PM EST
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Brexit: Judge rejects parliament shutdown legal challenge
The case was brought to the Court of Session in Edinburgh by a cross-party group of 75 parliamentarians, who argued the PM had exceeded his powers.

But Lord Doherty ruled on Wednesday that the issue was for politicians and voters to judge, and not the courts.

He said there had been no contravention of the law by the UK government.

smells like "SCOTUS won't touch it">, case or controversey clause

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Sep 4th, 2019 at 08:16:11 PM EST
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