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I was going to gloat that Labour got to have their annual congress, and the Tories miss theirs.

But a big bust-up between Boris's bunch and the rest (not only remainers, but Brexiters in favour of the rule of law) had huge Entertainment potential.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 at 10:00:54 AM EST
Although the media coverage of the Labour conference was all about divisions, I actually thought Corbyn's performance was very impressive. He faced down a threat to his deputy leader - which, had it succeeded, might have precipitated a further wave of MPs leaving the party. His speech, which again, I thought was impressive, was ecstatically received by the conference.

And Corbyn has slowly moved his position to emphatically supporting a second referendum - which I agree is the only way to reverse the result of the first. The question of how he campaigns during that referendum is a matter for another day when the options available have been clarified.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 at 10:22:45 AM EST
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As another commenter noted: You always get a division narrative when you combine a hostile media and an actual process to arrive at positions compared to a polit-buro like governing style. That is the price you have to pay for empowering the party left.
by generic on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 at 01:27:43 PM EST
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Most political parties are far from democratic. In general, the more successful, the less democratic. That's their dirty little secret. UKLP has improved in that direction in recent years, but indeed, the price is airing the dirty laundry in public.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 at 02:35:41 PM EST
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Yes, the MSM reports were all about the Remainers' pressure via resolutions - which ended up in the dustbin.

Here and there - including in The Guardian - there were small articles about some of the workshops at the conference, where actual policies were discussed and resolved. The reports generally indicated good agreement on the real import of Corbyn's crew - social, anti-austerity programs.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 at 04:40:00 PM EST
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From today's Guardian it appears that the Remain de facto alliance may well deny Boris any recess for a conservative congress and just make conservative MPs run back and forth between Manchester and Westminster during the process. Complain as they might, it will be a clown show. The Remain alliance could always make agreement to a recess for the Conservative Convention contingent on having either negotiated an exit plan that will pass Parliament or having delivered a request for an extension. They could always reply to criticism by saying that, had the time during the unlawful prorogation not been lost, this would not have been necessary.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 at 09:08:46 PM EST
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well, that would be a lie, wouldn't it.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 at 09:29:48 PM EST
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Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing, Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Thu Sep 26th, 2019 at 07:01:10 AM EST
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