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Corbyn said in his Brighton speech that a Labour government would negotiate a credible Brexit deal

In other words, he is a much of a liar as Johnson?

by asdf on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 at 10:56:28 PM EST
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Credible means something different to Corbyn than it does to Johnson. Corbyn understands what the EU have to secure. Johnson assumes he can get anything he wants or just crash out. If you consider a crash out acceptable I guess that is a credible way to exit. But the Brexiteers have not been able to sell anything they have negotiated to Parliament.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Sep 26th, 2019 at 12:01:57 AM EST
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No. Credible for Labour means a N. Ireland only backstop and a much closer relationship to the Customs Union and Single market sketched out in the accompanying Political Declaration. The EU (and Ireland) don't have a problem with this.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Sep 26th, 2019 at 11:01:21 AM EST
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But the UK will, because it makes the whole thing completely pointless and more or less turns the EU into the sort of undemocratic overload beloved of Brexiteer fantasy and conspiracy theory.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 26th, 2019 at 12:58:32 PM EST
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Every Brexit deal you can think off is inferior to actual membership... so change there...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Sep 26th, 2019 at 01:12:13 PM EST
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Well yes, but this one has the disadvantage of making a lot of the nonsense talked by Brexiteers true.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 26th, 2019 at 01:31:21 PM EST
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They don't care about N. Ireland and the political declaration is non-binding anyway. Some are already talking about using any deal as just a stepping stone to a "clean break" later on - and using Ireland as an example - whereby Ireland got a v. partial independence (less N. Ireland, Treaty Ports, land annuities) in 1922 and then became fully independent and out of the Commonwealth in 1948. Some are even saying they would vote for May's deal as is if it were brought back before the Commons. Expectations have gradually become lower and lower...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Sep 26th, 2019 at 01:52:34 PM EST
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