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Regardless of Johnson actually requesting an extension (of whatever duration), is there any good reason why the EU should grant one? The UK doesn't seem to be moving toward any acceptable solution, or even being able to reach a consensus as to its own position. I admire the EU's capacity to patiently negotiate, but there doesn't seem to be much point in continuing.
As with chronically self destructive people, sometimes you just have to let them find the bottom before they find their way back.
by Andhakari on Sat Oct 5th, 2019 at 09:52:16 AM EST
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Because No Deal is shitty for 60M EU citizens and pretty bad for the ones in the other 27 states too.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 5th, 2019 at 01:06:56 PM EST
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No disagreement, but separation isn't necessarily permanent. The EU hasn't burnt any bridges.
As senseless as Brexit is, it may be something that has to happen before the UK can see that it goofed. If Brexit doesn't happen I can't see how the issue will ever be resolved except through the passage of much time.
by Andhakari on Sat Oct 5th, 2019 at 01:26:13 PM EST
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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Oct 5th, 2019 at 08:41:04 PM EST
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The UK doesn't meet any of the usual acquisition rules, and if it reapplied it would lose all of its opt-outs.

It would also need a new referendum with a Rejoin option - which IMO would be unlikely to happen for at least five years. Ten years is a more realistic minimum - by which time Scotland will have rejoined already, Ireland will either have united or the North will be a bombed-out dystopian wasteland, and Wales won't be doing so well either.

So - not quite the same country, and certainly not an attractive prospect unless it gets its shit together politically and socially.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Oct 5th, 2019 at 09:04:30 PM EST
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Who in hell wants to do business with these people?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Oct 6th, 2019 at 12:47:08 AM EST
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Not permanent? Who wants to live in Boris Country for the next 20-30 or 50 years?

    "Many Remainers cling to the hope that it will all prove to be disastrous, the country will return to its senses, and seek to rejoin the EU sooner rather than later. However, one dimension of this scenario has received surprisingly little attention: the terms of membership the UK currently has are very unlikely to be on offer in future."
    [Source: LSE - Iain Begg]
by Oui on Sun Oct 6th, 2019 at 09:21:25 AM EST
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I have to wonder if Britain's special terms of membership have fed into its sense of entitlement, keeping it apart from the continent as much as the Channel.
by Andhakari on Sun Oct 6th, 2019 at 12:38:06 PM EST
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