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their view, that a crime has not yet been comitted and so therefore there is nothing on which to seek judgement, makes sense. What people seem to have missed is that the evidence to the Scottish case on progoguing involved a declaration before court that the Prime Minister intended to obey the Benn Act and seek an extension.

Therefore if TWBJ attempts to weasel out of this commitment, he will have automatically committed perjury and be subject to genuine jail time. Non negotiable.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Oct 9th, 2019 at 03:08:01 PM EST
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--declaration scenarios and remedies

archived: JUDGMENT, R (on the application of Miller) (Appellant)vThe Prime Minister (Respondent)Cherry and others (Respondents) vAdvocate General for Scotland (Appellant) (Scotland)

70. It follows that [the Crown in] Parliament has not been prorogued and that this court should make declarations to that effect. We have been told by counsel for the Prime Minister that he will "take all necessary steps to comply with the terms of any declaration made by the court" and we expect him to do so. However, it appears to us that, as [the Crown in] Parliament is not prorogued, it is for  Parliament to decide what to do next.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 9th, 2019 at 03:54:20 PM EST
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Waiting for that crime to occur is not satisfying, is it?

Refuting "the deal" proffered by a PM to the EU Council which cannot reasonably agree to parliament's inchoate acts is also unsatisfactory.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Oct 9th, 2019 at 04:11:24 PM EST
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Well then. Everyone should be happy with this sensible ruling :
A Scottish court has delayed a decision on whether Boris Johnson should be forced to ask for a Brexit extension until after the final deadline has passed next week.
Anti-Brexit campaigners had asked the three judges, Lord Carloway, who is the lord president, Lord Brodie and Lord Drummond Young, to issue court orders forcing Johnson to send the letter to the EU as required under the Benn act.
That legislation, the European Union (Withdrawal) (No 2) Act, requires Johnson to write to the EU asking for an extension until 31 January if he fails to get a Brexit deal agreed at Westminster by 19 October.
In an unusual move, Carloway said the issues were so significant and time-sensitive that the court could not make a definitive ruling on whether the prime minister had broken the Benn act until 19 October had passed.

He said the judges would suspend a final ruling on whether to order Johnson to comply, or send the Benn act letter to the EU itself, until Monday 21 October. Then, he said, "the court will expect to be addressed on the facts that present themselves".

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Oct 9th, 2019 at 04:28:57 PM EST
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The SCHEDULE FORM LETTER will fix ekonomie!

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 9th, 2019 at 04:35:22 PM EST
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The bluff behind the blame game
Many of us had long assumed that next week's European Council summit would be the final deal or no-deal showdown. That meeting may well now go ahead without the attendance of the UK leader.

Instead, the Saturday after the summit, 19 October, is likely to be a more significant date, as UK lawmakers will be summoned to Westminster for an unusual weekend session.

They and Johnson will both face a decisive moment.

Johnson will have to formally request an extension or resign. An extension will allow him to keep to the law, but breaking his promise of taking the UK out of the EU on 31 October will cost him the support of a hefty portion of Brexit voters when election day finally comes.

The events which have not occurred.

archived deadlines
Regardless of the date of submission ...
Regardless of the prorogation period, UK parliament response to it ("debate") is limited to the period between 18-31 Oct.
The event which has has not occurred is Mr No-Deal "breaking" one or more laws ...
Call me crazy (and I know you will) but I'm thinking that the first item of business...
...Perhaps you confuse "bluff" (pretext) with threat?
Johnson will send the letter, that I do not doubt ...

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Oct 9th, 2019 at 06:39:19 PM EST
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