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any first-hand knowledge with UK "Jobs Retention Scheme" to share? With or without competitive UC claims? What I'm reading in the presses and at .gov suggests that HRM BoJo's generosity is on cliff-edge, because the 80% offer isn't going to many as touted, now or by April 30.

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by Cat on Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 at 12:33:20 AM EST
Whereas in stark contrast 330,000 newly unemployed workers got an enhanced unemployment benefit of €350 (up from normal €203 per week) in Ireland this week. Thousands more got 70% of their wages paid by the government if their employer kept the on the books.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 at 01:04:26 AM EST
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Interesting. I haven't kept up with the usual suspects since the election. But I took Varadker seriously a year ago, that gov had a stash for adverse BREXIT. Won't venture as to how far it will stretch before the borrowing starts up.

I'm totally ignoring Ursula vdL and Lagarde. Do enjoy this recent Baroque portrait tho'. Didn't read the story. Have forgotten the headline, caption.
Took the overview at France24 with a grain of salt. Benefit caps look suspiciously 2009 mileurista.

The odious passed three bills, two of which to bail-out banks and bank borrowers. The third ("FamiliesFirst") repackaged 2009 UI + 1x "stim check" and minor claims adjustments to give P/T and self-employed a crack at it. Business, claiming COVID affectations, immediately dumped labor--6.6M initial UE claims filed this week alone, so US twitterverse is much aroused by NY/SF/DC leisure economists flaunting BoJo's largesse at "£2,500/mo!". 80% being greater than customary 60% in USA. The irony is hysterical. Complaints about web claims processing have commenced with fury. The yanks have no idea what's going on in UK, but some pay close attention to CFR in Italy (read: EU) to confirm it was Chinese infiltrators wut done it.

by Cat on Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 at 03:46:46 AM EST
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btw, MSM is pretentiously tossing "lay off" and "furlough" into UI claims advice. Of course, there's no such employment status as furlough in US private sector (It's a civilian gov and mil term of art) and no bill offers incentive to maintain employment at full or reduced salary. Anyone still employed is encouraged to telecommute, if practicable, in "self-isolation" whether or not infected. Consumer/entertainment traffic is grinding to a halt. So 6.6M is rude indicator of the size of non-transferable service economy yet to collapse. atm, 20M is the magic number including complementary sectors, I suppose. DJT has left states' governors to hedge deadline closures and definition of "essential" commerce while test kits are in short supply.

Dissonance appears in a UK.gov preface to instructions for claimants, dependent on employer application for grants.

What is a 'furloughed worker'?

'Furloughed worker' is not a recognised term in UK employment law, although it is commonly used [!] in the USA. Government guidance says someone is furloughed if they remain employed but are not undertaking work (in the UK [!] the legal term would be 'laid off'). Importantly, this suggests that the scheme does not cover employees who have agreed to work reduced hours.

Employees generally have the right to be paid their full wages if they are willing and able to work, even if their employer cannot provide them with any. Some employers will have a contractual right to lay off workers without pay but this is rare in practice.

As a result, most employers will need the consent of their employees if they are to put them on furlough with reduced pay. To do so unilaterally could be a breach of contract and an unlawful deduction from wages. However, as the alternative will likely be redundancy, obtaining the employee's agreement may not be difficult.

There is some uncertainty as to how this will apply to those on zero-hours contracts, as an employer may seek to simply reduce their hours....

by Cat on Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 at 04:21:12 AM EST
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Yes, the term 'furloughed' is not commonly used here and doesn't have legal implications like "redundant" or "laid off". It is associated more with USA usage and has connotations of 'leave of absence', paid or unpaid, by mutual agreement, possibly because of a partial temporary shut down in production. Some workers here have been asked to use up some of their annual leave entitlement while remaining on full pay. The point of the government 70% wage subsidy is to reduce the level of formal redundancies and maintain the link between employer and employees in the hope of a rapid reboot post crisis. Total cost of these measures is €3.7 Billion  for the next 12 weeks, more than enough to wipe out originally projected budget surplus for the year. Basically it will have to be borrowed, although the government does have significant cash reserves at the moment.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 at 01:58:03 PM EST
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On the continent, some countries have a system which is pretty much the equivalent of furlough in English language: people are still paid 70% of their gross salary and can find other employment meanwhile. Called "chômage partiel" or "chômage technique" in France or "cassa integrazione" in Italy.
by Bernard on Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 at 05:59:28 PM EST
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Other euphemisms in English include "gardening leave" = suspension pending disciplinary inquiry and "put out to pasture" = got rid of, possibly with "golden handshake"...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 at 06:38:56 PM EST
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